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Pixii Bomb··2 votes·3,240 views

TLDR: Looking for Tips on CS'ing

Ok so when I first started playing, I didn't realize CS was so important. It's just one of those things you're EXPECTED to know, but no one ever tells you. It wasn't until close to the time I stopped playing the game a year ago, that I started paying attention to my CS.

Now, a year later, I'm still dont have a good CS, but I'm HEAPS better than I used to be. (IE: If I ADC or Mid, I try to get 100-120 - WHICH I KNOW IS BAD - but compare that to a year ago, when I was only getting 50 or so per game)

> Things I've Noticed: > - Some Champions really have it easy. Like Heimerdinger. As song as his turrets are up, I can get 100 CS within the first 10-15 minutes and get 150-200 by the end of the game. > - I have an easier time CS'ing with Tristana or Jinx because of their passives and abilities, but I'm still not that great. > - I REALLY REALLY LOVE playing Ashe, but I have BY FAR the hardest time CS'ing with her. > - Additionally, I've noticed that Mana Pots are gone, so I have a hard time CS'ing with Champs that eat mana, for fear that if I use my Mana for Creeps, I will not have an ability that I need to save my life during a 1v1.

> Problems I've Having: > - I would say 7/10 times when I THINK I'm going to last hit a Minion, it has like 5 HP remaining, so I miss that CS. This is usually the case with Ashe. For Trist and Jinx, that ratio is like 3-5/10. This REALLY REALLY puts me behind. > - Unless I'm playing ADC with my boyfriend, I pretty much know I'm going to lose. BUT I've been trying to play without him because I WANT to learn and I WANT to get better. > - The reason why I lose is because I'm afraid of Champs like Blitz, Thresh (anyone with a grab or pull) and I NEVER get paired with someone who synergies well with Ashe (whom I prefer to ADC with). My boyfriend will support me as Braum, which is GREAT with Ashe. But I NEVER EVER get a Tank Support by myself. I've actually never even SEEN a Blitz or Thresh on my team when I solo play. This isn't my support's fault. It's actually mine! Since I ALREADY have a hard time CS'ing, I tend to be FORCED to run around minions, missing opportunities to CS in order to dodge a grab or pull.

> Me as a Support: > I think part of the problem is I also LOVE to Support, so I never really have to think about CS. I LOVE LOVE Sona because she is super aggressive, can heal, can CC and can get her and her ADC out of harms way. I usually end a game with an S-, S or A when I play Sona (although I'd be lying if I said I didn't have bad games with her) - but when I play ADC I usually score a C or a B.

TIME FOR TIPS I guess my biggest question is: HOW do you secure that last hit? Other than "when the minion gets low..." (because that's the main issue I'm having, the enemy minion IS low, but the last hit goes to a team minion - or the enemy minion survives by 5 HP)

8 Comments

WarlockLaw2 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/REhRbnEQ-potd-for-those-who-want-to-improve-on-csing

I saved this old thread a while back, it gives tips and practice routines for improving cs.

Tl;dr of it is practice. You just have to practice it

Pixii Bomb1 votes

thank you, that thread was very helpful!

xJLGx1 votes

There is no secret tip hitting a minion before its about to die. You either last hit it or you still need to work on it and your skills best way is practicing with 0 runes and masteries. You sound like you are looking for a diet pill that doesn't exist

Pixii Bomb1 votes

ummm not really sure WHY you read my post THAT way >.> I have a complete, detailed outline as to WHAT I'm doing wrong and WHY I think I'm wrong, and yet you think I'm looking for magic hax?

There is OBVIOUSLY a trick to it, there is OBVIOUSLY something I could be doing better.

I would like insight on improvements, otherwise this would be titled :hax for CS, not TIPS. It's **completely ** unnecessary for you to have added that last sentence. Regardless, I will try practicing a Custom Match without runes and masteries

xJLGx1 votes

Because that's what your post implies. There is no trick to it, I see a low minion I wait and I hit it after years of practice. Its about knowing when its okay to hit normal and when to use spells. You can also see the creeps attacks so you can predict the damage and last hit. Or you can learn how to last hit under tower aka how many turret shots it can take before you need to hit it. Its all just practice.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

He is wrong, there is a trick to it:

Don't aim to hit the minion when you think your attack is going to be enough to kill it. Aim to last hit the minion at the last moment before your creeps will kill it on you.

In the former case (what you're likely trying) it's very easy to think you have enough damage to finish off a creep, but have slightly mis-estimated leaving it with a couple health that your allied minions immediately kill on you. In contrast, the latter case allows you to ALWAYS get the last hit so long as you're not too late. You'll never leave a minion with too little health, you'll only miss minions that you don't realize are dying quickly enough.

So keep track of how much damage the melee and caster minions appear to be doing to each minion, and how many are focusing each minion. When a minion is only a few hits away from dead, see how many attacks are being shot at it, and time your auto attack to hit before the killing minion blow will hit.

There's also another added advantage to this - if you're last hitting minions that are at 5hp and your enemy is last hitting them when they're 50hp, your enemy will end up slowly pushing the wave towards your tower. This won't happen at levels 1 and 2 when you're both pushing hard to try to level up more quickly, but at levels 3+ when the jungler may be ready to gank this can be a good advantage as well.

Hope this helps ;)

Just to be clear, it doesn't have to be literally before the last minion attack. Just judge your last hitting by minion attacks until dead rather than by whether you think you can last hit or not. Attacking a minion that is 3 minion attacks from dead to get your own last hit is perfectly fine.

Pixii Bomb1 votes

thank you! this is more along the lines of what I was looking for. I appreciate the information

raxman1 votes

I have used http://lolsinsider.com/ to determine my creep score efficiency. It helps determine how well I creep compared to the pros.

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