Riot announced they are actually gonna bring voice chat into the game

abdul569··4 votes·2,600 views
Urfwick wants a Loot Box and voice chat and better support

I feel like this is a positive change over all, as long as it is optional. I know riot has forced DQ onto us and that we all hate it because of the advantage premades have over solo quers but i feel like this might help minimise their advantage making ever so slightly more competitive. probably won't make it as good as solo q was but i do recall a rioter saying that yes they know DQ is shit but they want to make it great. They told us nothing on how they are going to do so, they lied to us about SQ, they lost the community's faith i agree but if they make minor adjustments and add things that might not have been possible if we were in a SQ environment maybe we can learn to accept DQ eventually. What do you guys think? I just want to make a discussion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHm6r1PvILw talks about this topic quite well too

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ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

Thank god, voice comms not in a team game is really stupid IMO.

Ikora Rey3 votes

This is literally going to be a nightmare for players. Does it have advantages? Yeah, it does, but the disadvantages pretty much (in my opinion) outweigh the advantages.

You're going to have idiots with open mic on ALL THE TIME. This means hearing their crappy music, hearing their mom scream at them, their extremely heavy breathing, and just general background noise. You're going to have different personalities, and sometimes different languages and dialects, shoved into a voice chat together and who knows how it's gonna go. The only way to solve this would be to have ONLY push to talk, but even then people would complain about having to push an additional button to talk and that it would interfere with gameplay.

If you choose to opt out of voice chat, you're going to get flamed. If you team goes to make a play and they don't communicate with you, they're going to likely die and then blame you for not having voice chat enabled. This is going to be very, very crappy for people who are stuck solo with a four man queue.

If you're a girl, forget it. You're never going to use voice chat because people are going to harass you and be rude and sexual for the sole reason of you just being a female. If you're a feminine sounding dude, you're going to get called all sorts of slurs and very unwanted names.

Toxicity in general is going to be high, and if Riot isn't prepared to keep and review upwards of thousands of voice logs a day then this doesn't need to be a thing. If someone is being toxic in voice chat and you report them, someone is going to have to listen to it and determine if it's a positive report or not. If they're not going to implement a punish system for this, it's going to be bad and they're going to lose more players than they already have.

As for communication, Riot could implement better ways in game that things could be communicated. For example, a ward ping has been asked for multiple times. It's a real pain as a support player to ping, type warded, and go on all while still in lane trying to dodge shots. That goes for anyone, really. Knowing when someone is coming in/ganking/whatever is as simple as a ping or two on the map; surprisingly most people have decent enough map awareness that they're going to notice/hear a very loud unordinary sound.

Sorry if this all sounds really negative, but it is a legitimate concern. And yes, I'm aware that it's optional, but for a large chunk of the community this is going to be underutilized. Either people are just going to use it for their party and their party alone, or people are going to abuse it to no end until Riot actually realizes that it's a problem.

Vistha Kai2 votes

Funny shit considering last year they said, that according to their research, build-in voice comm would be too toxic and won't even be considered.

And yes, it will only create more toxicity on top of the Boosted Queue.

They should get back on the decision that TRULY matters.

Bringing back Solo Queue before 2019.

Demon King Maou1 votes

Ohhhhhhh man I can already hear the squeakers though would be nice to hear when my jg is coming or not

Very Hard Engage1 votes

meanwhile they are just distracting us from the issue of dynamic queue with "shiny new toy in our face technique".

Krigjer1 votes

As long as we can opt out of it before a game even starts (instead of joining the chat and having to leave it).

No one wants to use Cursevoice when I link it, I don't see why Riot needs their own voicechat system.

Dehitay1 votes

They've already said it will be opt in, as in disabled by default. You have to specifically turn on voice chat in order to use it. However, they also said they weren't going to add it till after the massive client overhaul they are doing, so who knows how long that's going to be. Which is sad cause this is the biggest thing they have ever said they would do that would actually close the gap between solo players and premades.

Though it will have its problems. I have no doubt it will introduce new levels of toxicity. And people are sure to be screaming to report people who don't use the feature. However, it's still pretty much a necessity with dynamic queue forging a huge freaking advantage for premades who use voice chat over solo queue players.

Krigjer1 votes

However, it's still pretty much a necessity with dynamic queue forging a huge freaking advantage for premades who use voice chat over solo queue players.

This I don't get, because Discord and Cursevoice exist and have existed since before Dynamic Queue went live. Again, I don't think Riot needed to have their own inclient voicechat program at all.

Dehitay1 votes

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This I don't get, because Discord and Cursevoice exist and have existed since before Dynamic Queue went live. Again, I don't think Riot needed to have their own inclient voicechat program at all.

The fact that they existed before dynamic queue did should actually help show the problem. Third party programs aren't so easy to coordinate with League. Hell, even Curse Voice which used to link you to anybody else on your team in game using Curse Voice only got a limited amount of use. There's no standard third party program for League. And that makes it difficult to get people on the same page unless they're getting setup ahead of time (aka premades).

As of right now, solo players don't have nearly the impact that premades do. It's just not possible to have as much influence as a group that can immediately react to a situation with voice chat. A significant amount of games are determined by which team has the better premade for that reason.

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