Why do People not like 1v1's?

Armored Yokai·Jan 14, 2018·1 votes·508 views

1v1's are Honorable forms of combat because you can't use your team as a distraction and do damage and brag about epeen or you can't rely on someone to save you when you get outplayed by your opponent. 1v1s also teach you about proper positioning and trading because when you fight someone 1v1 you need to not expose certain areas in order to have a better advantage.

If you do lose 1v1's it's okay to lose because it's just a game and it gives you a chance to improve on things you can't do when you are with a team, I've talked to people and the most common thing they tell me is it's because people don't like to lose and it makes them feel better to blame someone else than blame themselves.

7 Comments

bwopJan 14, 20181 votes

Because certain degenerates would use heavy cc tanks and just make the 1v1 not fun at all.

Armored YokaiJan 14, 20181 votes

isn't there a shop items to counter heavy tanks like AS and Lifesteal?

Dead flag bluesJan 14, 20181 votes

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isn't there a shop items to counter heavy tanks like AS and Lifesteal?

yes but 1v1 don't start with 15k golds. A Specter's cowl is way more efficient that a Needlesly large rod for instance. Or Ninja tabi + cloth armor are more efficient than a Zeal or a BF sword. (I'm taking howling abyss as en example, since you start with 1400 golds and 1v1 are usually made here)

OilegibtKoileJan 14, 20181 votes

because the game is straight up not about 1v1. Maybe you can join a community that enjoys it.

woodvsmurphJan 14, 20182 votes

Top lane used to be; sure a few ganks by either jungler, but largely ignored. Now it is full of babies who have jungle and mid or support constantly coming to help them because they are too boosted to win 1v1 even when they have a counter-pick and a second combat summoner (flash + something other than tp). It's really pathetic. I mean, I don't mind being camped most games, but then don't talk shit when even after 6 ganks (3 with flashes burned by teammates) as though you are good when you still can't 1v1 me after all this. And everyone else in game acts like you should just play safe and it's your fault if you "feed" because you are tower dove, you are ganked every time you move 2ft from tower, and your team is all losing and no one is being proactive. If you watch streamers/high elo, you will see them play as safe as possible in these games but still often have bad kda early. No one flames them for this; their teammates snowball the rest of the map to punish their opponents for camping top. But bronze-gold? No, they still manage to lose lanes while never being ganked a single time by the other team's jungler, having a 2v1 vs enemy adc bot for half of laning phase, and having tons of chances to counter-gank top and pick up easy 2 for 1's. Yet 85% of players at this elo cannot see this even when it's explained to them; they just see 1/3/0 kda toplaner and think... feeder, boosted, noob. Never mind the guy nearly got a kill 1v2, is playing as safely as reasonably possible, is up in cs, and has repeatedly blown ults and summoners of multiple enemies just so they could get one kill on him. The team is too blind and unskilled to exploit/punish this. At higher elo, this would be a horrible trade for the team investing that much to shut down one person.

OilegibtKoileJan 14, 20181 votes

Getting ganked is not your opponent being a pussy. It's just a jungler pushing his advantage. Also please don't write those huge blocks it's really hard to read.

woodvsmurphJan 15, 20181 votes

Being ganked is one thing. Being flashed on when you escape, just to force you to have to back every time they have flash available, is something else. Being dove every time minion wave hits your tower, being jumped every time you leave your tower to push wave out; that's not pushing an advantage - that's straight up camping. When jungle proximity is upwards of 80% for the first 15 min of game, you are essentially creating a non-stop 2v1 lane. If the person being camped has a losing solo lane teammate, a feeding duo lane bot, and a jungler who refuses to counter-gank or make positive plays anywhere on the map... you aren't pulling off anything impressive. You aren't better than the guy you are camping. While what you are doing makes sense at some level (the only way that guy's team wins is if you stop camping him and he pops off and solo carries the game), you are also being a coward. At some point if your toplaner (or any lane for that matter) can't 1v1 or 2v2 for laning phase and you've helped them non-stop for the last 10 min, leave them to lose; they don't deserve to get boosted. You are in fact only screwing over their future teammates in any game where they can't get a 2v1 lane for 15 min at start of game - because they will feed and make the game infinitely more unwinnable for their team. And have some honor. It's one thing to brag if you made an insane outplay or pulled off just even a 1v1 win; but if you've 2v1'd someone for the entirety of laning phase, it's nothing to brag about being able to beat them in a fight - much less call them trash, feeder, etc.

I respect a jungler who ganks a lane a few times because it makes SENSE to gank that lane at that time. If you want to 2v1 all of laning phase, fine. But if you are narrowly winning (and sometimes trading 1 for 1) in a 2v1 for the entire laning phase while that opponent has 4 useless teammates, don't talk shit like you're some god for winning a lane 2v1. There's literally nothing impressive about it.