Is it me or is Viktor such a therapeutic champion to play?
You walk around and fire lasers and its so satisfying when the empowered purple Qs are fired off and the Death Ray clears entire waves. It feels like you are cleansing the world and upgrading yourself. The sounds that are made when you upgrade the Hexcores is also nice.
I can watch the Death Ray animation all day long.
Hexs Fortune1 votesLeague is only therapeutic when you win. A nice 2-3 game losing streak will trigger most folks.
RenownedWheat421 votesViktor is definitely one of the champs I enjoy more than I probably should. He's very fun, so in a sense I suppose you can equate it to being therapeutic.
SirΤeemο1 votesi like viktor , but sometimes i screw really hard his E and instead for get it forward i make it come back lul
WitchQueen Annie1 votesIt used to be even more therapeutic when Rylais was not nerfed.
OH MY GOD that feeling when you watch minion waves and enemy champs turn blue, freeze, and slow down as they are hit by the lasers.
OH MY GOODNESS...
Each tick of the Chaos Storm caused frost and shock... it was ultimate catharsis
Asayake 5150glow1 votesWell, I'm bad at aiming E's, so it's tilting when they go in the wrong direction.
So for me, no.
Q is satisfying as hell though.
W and R are underwhelming to me.
WitchQueen Annie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-04-30T19:41:31.081+0000)
Well, I'm bad at aiming E's, so it's tilting when they go in the wrong direction.
So for me, no.
Q is satisfying as hell though.
W and R are underwhelming to me.
Hmmm...
Though for me its the opposite. I find Vik's Death Ray to be a very fast skill shot. Its also so nice that its not minion blocked. After aiming it repeatedly, I find it very hard to re-adjust to slower projectiles like Lux E or Ziggs' Q.
Half the time simply pointing it straight at them will do. SOMETIMES you shoot it at where they are walking towards and time it but half the time... a straight shot is good enough.
R is a bit underwhelming. I wish it had continuous ticks rather than the Gapped Tick system. Either that or they up the initial blast damage so its a little bit more like a Tibbers.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlad Maine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-04-30T19:47:36.299+0000)
Hmmm...
Though for me its the opposite. I find Vik's Death Ray to be a very fast skill shot. Its also so nice that its not minion blocked. After aiming it repeatedly, I find it very hard to re-adjust to slower projectiles like Lux E or Ziggs' Q.
Half the time simply pointing it straight at them will do. SOMETIMES you shoot it at where they are walking towards and time it but half the time... a straight shot is good enough.
R is a bit underwhelming. I wish it had continuous ticks rather than the Gapped Tick system. Either that or they up the initial blast damage so its a little bit more like a Tibbers.
Yeah but like when I use E it goes backwards and I wanna kms.
I hate Viktors R because it's already basically a miniTibbers, Viktor can easily oneshot a squishy with Q+E+auto+R come midgame. i'd like it to be more spaced out to give him better teamfight and dps but worse oneshot.
WitchQueen Annie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-04-30T19:51:59.895+0000)
Yeah but like when I use E it goes backwards and I wanna kms.
I hate Viktors R because it's already basically a miniTibbers, Viktor can easily oneshot a squishy with Q+E+auto+R come midgame. i'd like it to be more spaced out to give him better teamfight and dps but worse oneshot.
Do you cast on smart cast or off? I cast it off and then you just drag it in the direction you want with your mouse.
As for his "one shot" in mid game, its largely situational. He EXCELS at deleting anything that's squishy and wounded even just a bit for sure. However, it can be tricky to get off a true 100-0 if the enemy moves away.
But once you have 
you have sky high amounts of damage (but it still doesn't play as smoothly as Annie's combos).
He does combo SUPER WELL into friendly CC though once you factor in Gravity Field.
but he does have the flexibility to situationally fight as a DPS Mage vs as a Burst Mage.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlad Maine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-30T19:58:23.094+0000)
Do you cast on smart cast or off? I cast it off and then you just drag it in the direction you want with your mouse.
I tried off, but it was too clunky so I just went with it on and just used it as a small aoe spell by targeting on top of them.
As for his "one shot" in mid game, its largely situational. He EXCELS at deleting anything that's squishy and wounded even just a bit for sure. However, it can be tricky to get off a true 100-0 if the enemy moves away.
Do you take ignite? Because those in my elo usually do, and that lets them finish the kill.
But once you have
He does combo SUPER WELL into friendly CC though once you factor in Gravity Field.
but he does have the flexibility to situationally fight as a DPS Mage vs as a Burst Mage.
It seems to me he only needs to DPS you down if he E'd or R'd somewhere else. Otherwise he just oneshots you. Unless you're a tank.
WitchQueen Annie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cant Hold Me Now,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-30T20:33:38.922+0000)
I tried off, but it was too clunky so I just went with it on and just used it as a small aoe spell by targeting on top of them.
Do you take ignite? Because those in my elo usually do, and that lets them finish the kill.
It seems to me he only needs to DPS you down if he E'd or R'd somewhere else. Otherwise he just oneshots you. Unless you're a tank.
I do not take Ignite, I take 
instead so I can Flank, Gank, chase and engage easier (as well as situationally escape).
What I mean by messing up the 1 shot is that there's no hard CC to start the combo if you go in by yourself on a squishy. So if you land part/most of your Q, E and R you can 100-0 the target but if he reacts fast and either side steps part of it, Flashes out, or Zhonyas etc you won't reliably kill him.
So in low elo they might go "OMG Viktor is attacking me I'm going to stand still and try to outburst him back (that might an intuitive reflex but its the wrong response)." If they do that, yes they will die 100-0 if you are at 2/3 items. But if the enemy's good and he's at 100 and he sees you gunning for him, he'll either Flash out or start dancing around to try to dodge some of your damage and you won't get a perfect 100-0.
Now if he's 70 as opposed to 100... you can pretty reliably go in as Vik and one shot them from that state. But a true 100-0 can be tricky when your opponent has the reflexes and the tools.
You either try to mind game them with your Gravity Field (hard to land), Flank, or rely on friendly CC to set up the kill. Otherwise you are more of a 70-0 executioner than a 100-0 executioner.
This is in comparison to Annie who's 100-0 is much more infallible due to the initial hard stun.
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Ideally, as Viktor you ALWAYS (if you can) want to play as a Burst Mage. You are only forced to DPS in situations where you are behind or where the enemy team comp doesn't allow you to get close. However, you have so much damage you can always situaionally DPS the front line when squishies are way out of range.
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Vlad Maine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-30T23:08:14.162+0000)
I do not take Ignite, I take
What I mean by messing up the 1 shot is that there's no hard CC to start the combo if you go in by yourself on a squishy. So if you land part/most of your Q, E and R you can 100-0 the target but if he reacts fast and either side steps part of it, Flashes out, or Zhonyas etc you won't reliably kill him.
But... they can't avoid your Q or R. R is a large AoE, and it's instant, and Q is targeted. E is also a small AoE and is fairly hard to avoid.
So in low elo they might go "OMG Viktor is attacking me I'm going to stand still and try to outburst him back (that might an intuitive reflex but its the wrong response)." If they do that, yes they will die 100-0 if you are at 2/3 items. But if the enemy's good and he's at 100 and he sees you gunning for him, he'll either Flash out or start dancing around to try to dodge some of your damage and you won't get a perfect 100-0.
But he can't dodge anything if you put your mouse on him and press all your buttons, because of E's AoE.
Now if he's 70 as opposed to 100... you can pretty reliably go in as Vik and one shot them from that state. But a true 100-0 can be tricky when your opponent has the reflexes and the tools.
You either try to mind game them with your Gravity Field (hard to land), Flank, or rely on friendly CC to set up the kill. Otherwise you are more of a 70-0 executioner than a 100-0 executioner.
This is in comparison to Annie who's 100-0 is much more infallible due to the initial hard stun.
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Ideally, as Viktor you ALWAYS (if you can) want to play as a Burst Mage. You are only forced to DPS in situations where you are behind or where the enemy team comp doesn't allow you to get close. However, you have so much damage you can always situaionally DPS the front line when squishies are way out of range.
Yeah, and I find that kinda dumb because it means if I dodged his E, he still has plenty of Q damage to kill me if I don't kill him fast enough. And if he ults somewhere else, he still poses a large threat.
PureSilvrr1 votesIve never played viktor, but I think everybody has a champ or two that are therapeutic.
For me Collecting Chimes as Bard is therapeutic, or Stunning or E'ing an enemy champ at low lvls on Tf is satisfying, because e does decent damage. I also like getting that 4+ man knockup on Rakan
LadyRenly1 votesdying in 0.86 seconds from full hp is therapeutic
Sir Fuzzi1 votesTeach me your secrets. Beside Azir and Orianna, Viktor forms my holy trinity of "I Have No Idea What I'm Doing, Oh God I'm Fucking My Whole Team." I have never had a single good game with any one of those three and after all my years in League, still can't play any of them to win anything but beginner bots. I would probably be a happy little mistake taking any one of those three into anything but beginner bots.
More to the point, Sona's my relaxing champ. W all day, touch people with auras. Aim nothing, stun everyone, help people. She's so agency-free, I can be huffing down drugs or swigging some swill, and still be at max Sona output.
WitchQueen Annie1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sir Fuzzi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fZXhAmUZ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-05-01T01:46:29.246+0000)
Teach me your secrets. Beside Azir and Orianna, Viktor forms my holy trinity of "I Have No Idea What I'm Doing, Oh God I'm Fucking My Whole Team." I have never had a single good game with any one of those three and after all my years in League, still can't play any of them to win anything but beginner bots. I would probably be a happy little mistake taking any one of those three into anything but beginner bots.
More to the point, Sona's my relaxing champ. W all day, touch people with auras. Aim nothing, stun everyone, help people. She's so agency-free, I can be huffing down drugs or swigging some swill, and still be at max Sona output.
You drag E towards the enemy more than half the time (with Smart Cast Off); there are other types of shots but for the most part, a straight line towards the predicted spot will work.
You walk into lane and you try to farm up to Hex Core 1 (so you get your super powerful upgraded Death Ray).
During this time you want to CS (its super important to hit your power spikes), while dodging his attacks. For trades and pokes you want to think in terms of Thunderlord COMBOS, not single hits (if you focus on single pokes you will burn your mana inefficiently).
For example, WHILE CS-ing and dodge, you want to try to land things like...
Death Ray + double Q (TLD proc)
auto + auto + Death Ray (TLD proc)
Be mindful of when TLD is up or not. You want to poke him down with TLD combos while not taking too much damage.
Your main build should be
or 
).You are NOT a very high kill potential champ so if the enemy is good and isn't eating TLD combos, its okay to just farm and dodge. If they don't play the match up well you can poke them down and sometimes use Summoners and your Ult to kill them.
You must ALWAYS ward the sides. You are very VERY vulnerable to Ganks and so you have to be especially careful of where the JG is. If he camps you, you have no choice most of the time but to farm safely. One of the champ's downsides.
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At mid game if you are behind you have no choice but to farm and stay mid.
If ahead you have two options.
Stay and push Mid, pushing waves into the tower with your Deathray spam (it becomes more mana efficient at about 4 points in), farm the enemy laner if he stays and you are ahead
Push the wave in, and then go Bot for a Gank. You into the lane when they are pushed, drop Gravity Field to block them and drop your Ult. You guide the Ult at them while blasting at them with Qs and Es. If your team follows, you can get a Double Kill and snowball bot half the time.
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In Teamfights you want to go for the backline. One approach is to wait for the fight to start, before flanking with and going for the squishy champs.
If the enemy plays in such a way that this is not possible without you dying, then focus on staying alive while kiting with abilities.
In Teamfights he's not really "combo" based. You've got tons of damage across your abilities but you have to fire them as the situation fits. The targeted Q (after you have Lich Bane) will become your main execute ability. Your Ult CAN be fired early for DPS but I recommend using it as an execute most of the time.
Two important things with Vik:
In team fights there are several main uses.
If they jump you, aways place W on yourself... you will probably still die, but hopefully they get CCed and your team can then kill then.
W is hard to land offensively (it doesn't have the superior reliability of a Lux bind or a Morg Bind). So it takes time to get used to its uses but it is very useful.
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Weaknesses:
short range (compared to most other Mages), hard to play into bad team comps, hard to solo carry (fairly team dependant and definitely should not be the team's only damage), can be quickly deleted (takes a while to get used to positioning)