How are these champions healthy for the game?

InfinitexMortal··3 votes·969 views

Khazix MasterYi Fizz Zed Talon Yasuo Urgot Tryndamere PykeDrMundo Garen

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OurLestrade4 votes

What's Urgie baby doing up there?

InfinitexMortal1 votes

Yeah i was questioning if he belonged there too lol

PhearBunny3 votes

Certain champs, Zed being the prime example...is entirely overtuned. His kit is basically allowed to be broken, because he is gated behind skill. Which, okay, fine. Let him have the broken kit, gated behind skill....sounds fair.....IF SHURIKANS ALONE DIDNT DO MORE DAMAGE THAN EVERY OTHER ASSASSINS ULT+ENTIRE ROTATION combined. But whatever, Shurikans are the equivalent of Nocturne ulting you 6 times, and don't cost anything. Seems legit.

Champions with kits that have an answer for every imaginable situation, would need to be undertuned inorder to be balanced. Currently, most of them are overtuned. With the exception of Azir.

Step Sis Lux2 votes

they are not

PhearBunny2 votes

Devs call Aatrox unhealthy.... Meanwhile.....actual unhealthy champs.....

Oleandervine2 votes

Aatrox is unhealthy, moreso than any of the listed champions. Most of those champions require skill, and while they are frustrating to go against, they can be beat.

Aatrox meanwhile either conquered everything or died miserably trying. He was extreme feast or famine, which none of the listed champions are. So Aatrox, by design, was horribly unhealthy for requiring to always be on top in order to be relevant and not be dead weight for the team.

PhearBunny2 votes

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Aatrox is unhealthy, moreso than any of the listed champions. Most of those champions require skill, and while they are frustrating to go against, they can be beat.

Aatrox meanwhile either conquered everything or died miserably trying. He was extreme feast or famine, which none of the listed champions are. So Aatrox, by design, was horribly unhealthy for requiring to always be on top in order to be relevant and not be dead weight for the team.

every top laner is feast or famine by default. Its a forgotten, unmanaged lane/role.

Arammus2 votes

they arent. but i mean its assassins. just with the stupid fact of "no counterplay". ppl like yasuo, tryn, urgot are so tanky/have so much lifesteal they mostly dont die, if they dont oneshot you.

while yi, kha etc just one shot but COULD be stopped.

Vekkna2 votes

Riot: "We hear you, and we will nerf mages accordingly."

InfinitexMortal1 votes

Lol so true! And they Nerfed support shields and items in this last patch.... like ok.....[sg-lulu]

Critmaster Garen2 votes

why are they unhealthy in your opinion?

InfinitexMortal1 votes

Majority of them are oneshot monsters that have almost no outplayability once they pick up 2 kills anywhere on the map. Yi has been getting indirect buffs through items and with item 3508 is very busted at the moment. Pyke has an overloaded kit and practically a Darius ulti without the set up Darius requires that also feeds full kill gold to his teammates assists. DrMundo and Garen both have way too much surviveability for how much dmg they deal out.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Majority of them are oneshot monsters that have almost no outplayability once they pick up 2 kills anywhere on the map. Yi has been getting indirect buffs through items and with item 3508 is very busted at the moment. Pyke has an overloaded kit and practically a Darius ulti without the set up Darius requires that also feeds full kill gold to his teammates assists. DrMundo and Garen both have way too much surviveability for how much dmg they deal out.

pykes damage on its own is way too low to assassinate a target, if he doesnt have follow up by a teammate. the ult is also telegraphed and you can flash/dodge it, while you cant dodge darius ult.

garen and mundo are fine, lol. of course theyre beefy, but theyre juggernauts. theyre very kitable and lack the ability to hard engage on their opponents.

Azadethe1 votes

It doesn't have to be low on its own but yeah..... it does limit his options. I generally average a 20k damage game. I'm trying to find ways to both increase his output and his survivability, and I think I've stumbled on something. But for now I'm hush hush.

NoPaxt1 votes

plat w/ CC and shielding, and stop whining...

Hazardus ducees1 votes

They reworked Aatrox just recently, and feels like a Rivin knock off. We all know how hard it is to play Rivin when someone knows how to lane against her, just picture it with Aatrox. Its going to suck more than any champion ever made.

Aurelion Suave1 votes

Talon is a %%%%. Possible to counterplay, but still a %%%%. And essence reaver works wayyyyy too well on Yi

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