So i just played this game with a kalista on the other team

ScriptBrand·Sep 24, 2015·1 votes·330 views

And she went 0/6 in lane and 40 minutes into the game she starts tripple and quadra killing my team because her rend is broken when paired with hurricane. if vayne's w doesn't work with hurricane then kalista's rend shouldn't either. and before you say it, i am well aware that vayne w working with hurricane would be ridiculous but it's the same idea. i think it should either: 1) only hit primary target with rend stacks or 2) not reset if she gets a champion kill with rend or at least go on a shorter cooldown and not completely reset

13 Comments

disregardableSep 24, 20152 votes

lol no

you don't go 0/6 and then get triple/quad kills for any other reason than the enemy team was bad

ScriptBrandSep 24, 20151 votes

you can look at the match, i was ezreal

3TWarriorSep 24, 20151 votes

not really...there have been plenty of cases reported on the forums of junglers having a 0 kdr, getting Sated Devourer and then having too much offense to stop

the same goes with vayne and jinx. Once late game actually happens, their power spike is too large

disregardableSep 24, 20151 votes

if the jg goes 0/6 he isn't going to get sated before 35 minutes

LordofthepitttSep 24, 20151 votes

Her build was fine. Her farm was good. I think you guys were getting outplayed.

ScriptBrandSep 24, 20151 votes

my teams have been garbage this whole week. strong possibility. wasn't paying attention to what they were doing, was too busy getting dived by ahri and liss

Lord DusteonSep 24, 20151 votes

Vayne's W doesn't work with Runaan's specifically because her W stacks can only apply to one target and are reset if she hits a different target. That means if her W DID work with Runaan's she could literally never proc it because the secondary bolts, upon hitting a target, would add one stack of her W (and remove all other stacks everywhere else). Kalista's E does not have a "single target only" application, and thus works as all other on hit effects with Runaan's Hurricane.

ScriptBrandSep 24, 20151 votes

uhh...duh? i literally said "vayne's w doesn't work with hurricane"...do you not understand english?

Lord DusteonSep 24, 20151 votes

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uhh...duh? i literally said "vayne's w doesn't work with hurricane"...do you not understand english?

You also obviously didn't know WHY it doesn't work with hurricane, and by the rest of your words showed repeatedly you thought Kalista's E with Hurricane was comparable to Vayne's W with hurricane. They are not. Vayne's W does not work because it is specifically single target only, and if it did 'work' with Hurricane it would be as a permanent detriment that completely removes one of her skills. Kalista's E works because, LIKE EVERY OTHER NON SINGLE TARGET ON HIT EFFECT Hurricane applies it. Your post seems to think that Vayne's W normally would work with Hurricane, but that Riot coded it to not, and you then presume that they can and should do the same for Kalista. Such a thing has not, and will not, happened.

ScriptBrandSep 24, 20151 votes

i "obviously" didn't know why it doesn't work with hurricane? you presume a lot don't you. you're a complete idiot if you honestly think I didn't know that. anyone who has ever seen vayne knows her fucking stacks drop if you switch a target. that's why i said DUH because i assumed my audience was intelligent enough to understand that. i said it needs to NOT work with hurricane because it is a stacking chunk like silver bolts, no where did i fucking imply that vayne's silver bolts were not single target...i IMPLIED that being able to apply a stacking chunk that scales infinitely is broken. there's a fucking reason this bitch was banned 80% of the time in the lcs.

3TWarriorSep 24, 20151 votes

the player's original point is that it gives kalista a large presence in team fights compared to other ADCs

the only ADCs with as reliable damage to multiple targets are: AP Varus, Jinx, Sivir and Twitch.

Kalista's rend is non-targetted, applies crowd control, gains an instant reset upon any kill with it, stacks infinitely and does not have a limitation other than autoattacking.

AP varus loses a large percent of his dueling power in exchange for large %hp ratios

Sivir has to be within ridiculously close range for her auto attacks and only does damage, reduced damage at that to her multiple targets

Jinx does more monstrous amounts of damage and has hard crowd control, but her power spike can't happen at any point in the game

Twitch is sheerly a late game champion, kalista's ability was almost literally copied from his, his ability has a cap, does minor damage(though lasts a long time) and he has to waste his ultimate to have a team fight presence, a large issue if he is taken out of the fight early

compare that to a champion that is effective at any point in the game, has a moving ward to prevent ganking, has perfect synergy with a tank support, an ability with infinite stacking damage and unlimited mobility provided there is a target. I don't know if her Q allows her to dash as he points out, but if it does, that means that she has an untargetted dash as well, effectively providing limitless escape opportunities while dealing damage

and as a fun bonus, kalista can save her support or give her support and/or herself an instant, stunning engage