I'm so proud of TSM

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IKR. TSM is now the laughing stock of the NA region. In fact, NA is the laughing stock of every other region. A wild card team gets through groups, but TSM doesn't even get close. They lose the game within the first 5 minutes when Biofrost can't be bothered to pop his flash. Triple kill for Uzi! That's instant loss. Fly away, TSM. NA will never leave the group stage.

TSM is riot's method of keeping NA down. Their only role is to stop better NA teams from making it to worlds so that they can throw. It is infuriating to watch them push other teams out just to go down in flames facing lackluster international teams. Someone should tell TSM that this isn't Baseball. The team with the fastest throw doesn't win.

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tsm need to learn how to draft jayce pick cost them the game he had zero presence all he could do was farm. Nothing but a wandering ward teamfights were literally bjerg and sven vs 5 so sad. Tsm biggest strength was their team fight but they consistantly draft (in worlds) laners with little to no impact in team fights . Oh well there is alway c9 i guess hopefully at least one na team can get outta groups

Actually, if played right the Jayce vs Poppy match-up can be a big advantage for the Jayce lane. He can farm and clear a lot faster, keeping Poppy pinned back clearing waves at her turret, giving Jayce time to farm and roam to get more map control for his team, as well as possibly divert the Poppy's jungler to top lane away from other lanes. Hauntzer didn't do enough to win that match-up and have the impact he could have had. Also, the rest of TSM's comp didn't make up for the CC sacrifice of taking Jayce. Just a long cool down root on Ryze and Braum.

[{quoted}](name=CodyBear ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=iWK7OEcA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-10-09T04:58:03.758+0000)

So sad. Watch the whole team get replaced again except mid. Honesty Bjerg should be the only one replaced. So hilarious. Wasting so much money.

That is the problem. TSM as a team culture thinks that the game is all about individual skill and if they just get better players, they would do better. They haven't figured out that the problem was never player skill but team culture that causes them to lose. Until they change their team culture, they will continue to lose to teams that are less skilled on paper.

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The thing is, Jayce is a fine pick against Poppy. The rest of their comp was just crap. Very very minimal CC for TSM, while every RNG player other than Uzi had a CC. So without good team fight CC, TSM would need raw damage to win, and instead gave up a Triple to the Chinese ADC god. It wasn't just Jayce. The whole TSM draft stank of NA YOLOqueue nonsense.

Jayce was a joke of a pick. Maybe jayce can beat poppy, but Jayce can't survive being played by Hauntzer. Just keep Hauntzer on a tank where he can do less damage.

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I'm sick of TSM seriously. This year I thought for once since Bjergsen wasn't the only shot caller and the best player by a mile they had a real shot.

TSM is the only team with that has attended EVERY SINGLE WORLD TOURNAMENT. Yet there lucky to get out of groups, and if they do never even won Quarters (since Season 1 I think.)

I think the only other teams with that much international experience are C9 and FNC. And while FNC hasn't won since Season 1, those two teams actually show up and put on a show.

I don't really consider worlds attendance anything to write home about. Everyone was so hyped for this awesome TSM line up and they can't even get 2 wins in week 2, which was all they needed to move forward. They had a poor pick and ban choice against RNG, but even that should have been salvageable if you don't feed Uzi in the bot lane, which they did handedly. Combine that with a no tank, low CC team and Svengeren playing at his worst and you have a recipe for a planet ticket home. Come on, guys. You get one bad game. You don't get one bad week. One bad week sends you home.