Tanks

okamiyasha95·Aug 17, 2018·3 votes·896 views

Why on earth would they buff any tank's damage? "Tanks are weak at the moment" Ya don't fuqin say. Maybe it's because there are no tank runes. The resolve tree is a joke. Instead of buffing tanks, just give us mr and armor runes.

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MrFawknSunshineAug 18, 20184 votes

tanks didnt get damage buffs.

they got tank buffs. amumu buff is more damage reduction for building tank. leona got a bigger shield. naut got where he can use shield more then once in a fight. sion got HP buff for killing cs

okamiyasha95Aug 18, 20181 votes

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tanks didnt get damage buffs.

they got tank buffs. amumu buff is more damage reduction for building tank. leona got a bigger shield. naut got where he can use shield more then once in a fight. sion got HP buff for killing cs

To clarify, I didn't mean damage. Sorry if I made it seem like I meant I was talking about damage. I was talking about buffing tanks in general. They didn't need to mess with tanks when the resolve tree provides no defensive stats. If the resolve tree had efficient and permanent defensive stats (Bone plating is the closest thing to defense, but it wears off after a short period) and the tanks are still in the same condition, I could understand.

Tanks now are generally in a bad state because this whole rune system and meta emphasizes damage on top of damage while giving no champion any defense outside of items. So, in the early game, tanks, from junglers to supports, are taking more damage than they should early on resulting in them being squishy. We all know what being squishy means. You can't just build HP because adcs can build bork and LDR and melt you faster than lava. You can't build too much armor and mr, everybody gets armor pen and mr pen items and you won't be able to cs effectively. If you don't do damage, you end up just dying hoping your team can beat the enemy 4 v 5 since the enemy wasted their abilities on you. It's not just tanks, when top laners are against players who beat them in damage early or counters (Teemo, pantheon, etc), there are no defensive options for them. So they end up taking so much damage early, they either can't cs or they get poked down to a point of being useless and at the mercy of their afk farming jungler. When supports and adcs get pitted against bot laners with huge poke (Brand, Zyra, Lux, 90% of the support roster), they can't cs, otherwise they get poked to death literally stuck at the mercy of their junglers who'd rather gank top.

We just left the tank meta and they are in a pretty okay spot with their kits. You don't touch them. If you want to see a change with them, you change their runes. It's not like they can benefit from any other keystone other than the resolve tree and it's not like other roles use the resolve tree. ADCs will still either go Domination, Precision, or Sorcery, Mages will follow the same, Some Bruisers will follow, and Assassins will follow.

With defense reduction, you can damage players more since your attacks will do more damage to them. That would only apply to Amumu though. I don't know what the numbers are yet, but to my knowledge from playing the above champs and against them, Leona doesn't need anything. She's brain dead, hard to kill, hard to escape, has high burst damage, and makes it to where her teammates can get the easy kills without them using much effort. Even if you flash out or cleanse and QSS, Leona can ult you and your still cc'd. The fact she doesn't doesn't help because by the time it's time to retreat, either her adc would've killed your adc or y'all would be too low. Nautilus doesn't need anything done to his shield. He has good aoe damage, okay sustain, and great cc. Nautilus just needs proper tank runes so he isn't 100 to zeroed in 5 secs in a team fight. Sion gets HP for killing cs? haHAA. That's a joke right? Now he can just go straight AP/AD, execute himself and free farm better or after he kills you, he can safely and effectively push a wave. If he gets HP while he's alive, that's crazy. If there was a downside, like removing his xp gain or reducing his gold income from cs after death, then it would be fair. I just saw someone get to challenger with Sion. He's not so bad to where he needs a buff. All he needs is proper tank runes so building damage isn't his best option. Amumu doesn't need to reduce armor. HE STILL HAS A TRUE DAMAGE PASSIVE FFS!!! All he needs is proper tank runes so he isn't dying to gromp after blue buff.

MrFawknSunshineAug 18, 20182 votes

i agree 100% the runes are the issue. i have made threads and comments about how i would alter resolve tree for tanks. ill link it to you for your pleasure

MrFawknSunshineAug 18, 20181 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AIGH4Ez8-idea-for-rune-changes-to-help-tanks

okamiyasha95Aug 18, 20181 votes

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https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/AIGH4Ez8-idea-for-rune-changes-to-help-tanks

Yeah. Conditioning is crap. By 10 minutes, the junglers and adcs would have built enough damage to laugh at an extra 8 points in your armor/mr. The lvl 1 conditioning sounds great. I miss and would prefer the old rune and mastery system. You had more freedom and more stats true to what you wanted. They were just better and more balanced.

MrFawknSunshineAug 18, 20181 votes

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Yeah. Conditioning is crap. By 10 minutes, the junglers and adcs would have built enough damage to laugh at an extra 8 points in your armor/mr. The lvl 1 conditioning sounds great. I miss and would prefer the old rune and mastery system. You had more freedom and more stats true to what you wanted. They were just better and more balanced.

well as always instead of FIXING A PROBLEM riot over shoots it and shits the bed. the issue was runes before is that you couldnt have tier 3 full runes til lvl 30 and it was gated behind an IP cost. to fix this remove the IP GATE to runes and allow every one to have full runes from lvl 1.

but instead we have this mess of runes reforged. and i am a maokai otp for 3 seasons , i have nearly 700k mastery points puting me in top 10 in NA and top 50 in world. highest rank i achieved was gold. i maintain a 55% win rate on him even this season. i know this champ forward n backward. i love tanks and supports that is what i main and play. so maybe a bit of my argument is bias to a point... but considering its the class i play i would know more then someone who dont. just like i dont speak on assassins alot cuz outside general game play i dont know as much cuz i dont play them.