Nerf her Q damage. I'm tired of sitting in lane getting half my health taken away because all she did was cs. It doesn't even take that much skill to hit her Q. They can nerf her Love tap damage too. She can proc her Love Tap so easy.
Hexs Fortune4 votesImmobile ADC with no hard cc, no hard engage, no stealth and no "defensive get out of jail free cards" means her power budget can accommodate more raw damage.
okamiyasha952 votesImmobile? Her W passive, W active, and celerity is mobile enough. Even champion's with mobi's can hardly catch her. Albeit it's not on ezreal, lucian, and tristana status, but ADCs are not supposed to have mobility. They are supposed to learn how to position. Who needs to engage when you can Q someone for an instant death? You're describing Twitch and Tristana. Twitch and Tristana need damage nerfs too. ADCs are not suppsoed to be able to get out of jail free. If they did not position right, then they are supposed to be punished. This is the trade off of dealign the most damage objective wise and champion wise. I'm focusing on the early game when no one has items. No one should able to bring champions down to half health with one combo or ability with no complete items.
Sir Prepuzius3 votesImmobile? Her W passive, W active, and celerity is mobile enough.
well duh i can run predator on xerath too but that doesn't make him a mobile champion -_-
okamiyasha952 votesYou do realize what her W passive does right? Leave keystones out of it. Do you know what her W does? I didn't say was mobile like a Riven or a Talon, but I guarantee you, she is one of the most mobile champs in the game.
Sir Prepuzius3 votesYou do realize what her W passive does right? Leave keystones out of it. Do you know what her W does? I didn't say was mobile like a Riven or a Talon, but I guarantee you, she is one of the most mobile champs in the game.
sorry but no, having high ms out of combat (since it resets if you're attacked) is not the definition of a mobile champion. basically blink/dashes are what makes a champion mobile. At most you can include champs with high roaming capabilities such as quinn, tf and such
legit toxic1 votes53% wr bby stay low silver xd
Vlada Cut3 votesHer AA + Q damage with Dark Harvest is annoying I admit that, but there has to be an alternative way to reducing her damage without straight ul gutting her Q. Dark Harvest was already nerfed tho.
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Her AA + Q damage with Dark Harvest is annoying I admit that, but there has to be an alternative way to reducing her damage without straight ul gutting her Q. Dark Harvest was already nerfed tho.
Don't forget about her broken ass ult. It lasts too long and does too much aoe damage. No other adc has an ult that does the amount of aoe damage as MF.
Vlada Cut1 votesDon't forget about her broken ass ult. It lasts too long and does too much aoe damage. No other adc has an ult that does the amount of aoe damage as MF.
No? The problem with her ultimate is it synergizes really well with lethality. How to adress 4 out of 6 items on her kit which are lethality based withiut nerfing other champions in the process? Do you want to gut her ultimate as well?
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No? The problem with her ultimate is it synergizes really well with lethality. Hiw to adress 4 out of 6 items on her kit which are lethality based withiut nerfing other champions in the process? Do you want to gut her ultimate as well?
varus and Kog synegize with botrk and rageblade really well. It's not so much as the items. But when you give her an ability that, applies on-hit effects, procs love tap, has 650 range bounce off, and critically strikes, you're giving her too much power. Celerity on top of her w passive makes her uncatchable unless perma ccd. Unlike Draven's W, which only applies when used. Her ult does synergize with lethality items. I'm not complaining about item synergy. ITEMS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. RUNES AND CHAMPION KITS ARE. MF can go straight AP and her ult would still shred everyone in team fights. She only sucks against teams that can all in her or against teams that split.
Vlada Cut3 votesvarus and Kog synegize with botrk and rageblade really well. It's not so much as the items. But when you give her an ability that, applies on-hit effects, procs love tap, has 650 range bounce off, and critically strikes, you're giving her too much power. Celerity on top of her w passive makes her uncatchable unless perma ccd. Unlike Draven's W, which only applies when used. Her ult does synergize with lethality items. I'm not complaining about item synergy. ITEMS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM. RUNES AND CHAMPION KITS ARE. MF can go straight AP and her ult would still shred everyone in team fights. She only sucks against teams that can all in her or against teams that split.
See? This is why peolle don't take boards serioisly. You guys don't know what you want, you just repeat what your youtubers/streamers say like parrots wirhout understanding what they say. You first said nerf MF's Q, to nerf her kit, now you blame it on the runes for makimg her kit strong. It's either on or another and a reason why you'd nerf one over another. You can't nerf both.
okamiyasha952 votesI don't regurgitate streamers. I have been saying these things before the streamers were making it known. I'm simply talking from my 2 year, 3-5 games a day League experiences. I still stand on my statement. MF's kit still does too much damage. Even with the current runes, other ADCs are not putting out as much damage as MF in the laning phase besides Draven and they aren't putting out as much damage in teamfights besides maybe Caitlyn. I am simply emphasizing that on top of MF's kit, the runes make it almost impossible to cs against her without being poked to oblivion at the beginning of the game despite no one having items.
BoringLittleF3 votesRiot is never going to touch their fap fodder. You heretic.
Gazorpazorfield3 votesHey There. I am a Miss Fortune main player. Its true she can blow more than half your hp with one q or AA, but that is only with 2 or 3 items and dont forget ITS ONLY THE FIRST AA. Once this strong shot is used, her damage is really low compared to ANY OTHER ADC. And anyway you can dodge the q, just dont stay behind minions with low hp. It is not hard to land but its even easier to dodge.
Besides that, shes can only use that strategy on squishy targets, because as she needs to build lethality she doesnt deal serious dmg to tanks or offtanks.
Dont forget shes the adc with THE LOWEST initial ad value. With domination and sorcery she barely reaches 70 ad at lvl 1, when most adcs have at least 76, some of them even 80. If you play her with the regular adc runes, she has 64 ad with doran blade.
Now, w is not mobility. It is a very tiny movement speed buff that can save you sometimes, but it is useless vs any chamo with a gap close, amd almost half of the champs in the game have a gap close.
Its funny to destroy a xerath or a twitch in 2 Aa, but if that Twitch survives that first shot, Mf will lose the trade. I admit shes strong in lane phase too. But thats is because you are afraid (and she knows it), and if you play passive then she will have a lot of chances of landing her q (wich only deals big dmg if she has dark harvester on). You need to pick a badass adc like Xayah, Lucian or Draven. I am a Mf main and I NEVER let Draven open. It is just an impossible match if he knows his stuff. It works in the other direction too, so dont pick Vayne or Twitch if you dont wanna be destroyed.
Now, the ultimate. It is not a noob champ skill, it needs synergy with teammates and it is risky. It leaves a no mobile adc stopped in one place during almost 4 secs. Any good zed, kayn, riven, jax etc will jump on Mf face and instakill her. Just ward good if u are doing baron and stop crying. And you can easily interrumpt it or protect yourself from it. Zhonya, barrier, Braum, the fck....ing wall of Yasuo... Nami's ultimate etc. If you kill 3 people with it is because you had a good positioning and a good teamwork, not because the skill is op.
So, if you usually play Vayne, Twitch or Ashe, dont complain about your counters. Jhin or Draven will blow your hp in 1 sec as easily as Mf, and they are not so killable. If you know she counters you, then ban her.
okamiyasha951 votesWhile I agree her first attack is her everything, that is not true. She can swap between targets and keep refreshing the passive. It's not like her passive gets a cooldown where she has to wait for X seconds to rerapply. As far as dodging her Q, yes, it's obvious to stay from behind minions in order to avoid her Q, but what about matchups where her support is great at zoning (Brand, Lux, Zyra, Morg, Blitz, Sona, etc)? In a lot of those cases, staying behind minions is the only way to successfully farm. At the same time, staying near minions is the only way to successfully farm for ADCs who are on the short ranged side of things.
Tanks aren't even tanks right now, so every ADC can do great against tanks, but if tanks were to function how they are supposed to, then no. She wouldn't do a lot of damage to tanks. Unless, they were support tanks. Besides, I don't think she needs to deal with tanks or anyone being tanky in the bot lane. It's very easy for her to get fed and very easy for her to cs. The fact she doesn't really do damage to tanks as much as she does to squishies is her only real weakness. Even then, once she builds lethality and armor shredding tools, her ult shreds through them like butter so she's not completely at a loss, but tanks are supposed to be the counter to ADCs (cough cough Vayne).
Her ult does too much damage. Period. Point. Blank. But it DOES have its weaknesses. Therefore, I don't have complaints about it. It does it job against teams that have no synergy or knowledge of dealing against it like Brand's ult. However, it just does too much damage. Draven is powerful and arguably more broken in terms of damage output, but the difference between MF and Draven is their skill cap and MF's passive. Not saying harder to play champs should be better than easier to play champs, but Draven is extremely difficult to play at his best and it is very easy to kill Draven. It is a lot easier to kill Draven than you think. It's just that players usually do well with him so you don't hear about that side. You only hear about the times he does well even though he does not so well more than he does well. That's not the character. Draven is just as easy to kill as MF, but once Draven misses an axe, he becomes the weakest ADC in the game., like MF. At the same time, you know when and where he's going to go so you can set up attacks. MF just left clicks and does a ton of damage while pressing Q, which applies love tap, which deals more damage if used right. While Draven has to manually apply his Q in order to activate which costs mana and has a CD, MF gets axes built in for free. MF's ult also makes her a better pick than Draven because her ult has more DPS than Draven's ult. Jhin is broken only in the right hands. What makes his kit the most broken is his MS off crit. Every other ADC, when they are at the same level, can beat Jhin. Jhin cannot win a fight against another ADC in a face to face battle unless Jhin is fed. It takes him forever to reload, He only gets four shots, his AS doesn't increase. Unlike Graves, Jhin's reload speed doesn't increase based off how much AS you have and you can't increase your AS. Jhin is very easy to kill. Getting to Jhin especially after he applies his first crit is what makes him hard to kill.
Gazorpazorfield2 votesHey, thanks for answering me :) I know she has a very good synergy with zoning supports, but you have a supp too right? It is true she makes you have a hard time farming, but as I said before, its because you dont need to focus on farm, you need to focus on killing her, cause MF sucks so hard in long trades. You need to play aggressive with a champ like draven or xayah and a support with some cc. The moment she got cced shes dead, and even if she restart her passive hitting one champ and another, that will lower her dps as her attack speed isnt any wonder. She has to attack 2 targets while dodging and moving, when you only need to hit her. What you musnt do is let her free farm and free poke you. She has no dashes and a regular range, so shes not hard to kill. And dont forget her dmg is op only with dark harvest on.
The thigh guy3 votesOh no. A squshy immobile with no hard cc and no defensive utility is doing damage. What ever shall we do? -.-
WhoIsLinkz1 votesthis aged well, mf currently one of the best adcs in the meta (lol)
please stop pretending to know about the game
you have been bronze/silver for 4 seasons https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=The%20thigh%20guy
Kagemyth1 votesto be honest ... every aspect of her kit has counterplay and missfortune will run out of mana spamming skills and be pretty useless since she isnt very great in a straight up auto attack fight while were on the subject of her ult any disruption ability cancels it and she also has to stand still to use it which is kinda of a risk in and of itself if ur team isnt backing you up i could go on but tbh she really isnt broken. im an adc main and i dont even like her
Emmy Cha0s1 votesOr Rito could do the smart thing for once in their conceited lives and revert her back to her pre-5.22 kit. It was more balanceable, interesting & flexible than the half-baked, 1-dimensional pile they've left her in.
I'm not holding my breath though, Rito is well-known for doing the exact opposite of the smart decision. I just can't tell if it's intentional or a side effect of their balance team themselves being the opposite.
Inkling Commando1 votesi see all this talk about having DH with her but the thing is i have gotten M7 with her and never ran DH on her. yes she is strong but she is also very squishy. more so than other adc. i have to run 
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just to stay alive vs other ad champs. especially if i go top lane. and while yasuo wind wall can stop her ult if you have good timing and memory you can ult after he uses it so it ends up on cooldown when you ult. plus it is not her Q is strong just the rest of her kit is weak. her E is more meant for slowing rather than actual damage. her W does her give her ms out of combat and as when activated.
