Nerf Leona

okamiyasha95·11/10/2019, 5:37:02 AM·9 votes·3,302 views

I summarized it at the end so if you want the short version, just scroll to the bottom.

After playing games against her and as her, I can honestly say she needs a nerf. Not towards her damage even though she does a lot of it, but towards her CC. Her abilities have such a low cool down especially on her Q and R that it is ridiculous. Her Q doesn't stun you for a long time, but it's enough to make killing you so easy, her ADC can just auto attack with no passives or abilities and still kill you and she's able to use it enough in a fight to make you borderline useless. When she builds CDR, that 5 second cooldown turns into a 2.75 CD with 45 CDR. You don't think that's excessive especially with other champs who have CC abilities that deal more damage? Good Leona's know how to cycle through their abilities spacing out their E and Q use so they can make spamming CC even more frequent.

Her R CD is too short and is too effective in a teamfight. I've built CDR on her and her already short ult CD became even shorter allowing me to use it one fight after another fight like I never used it to begin with. Being able to use it as often as you can for how effective it is like giving Sona or Nami's ult Blitzcrank's ult CD. Either nerf the cooldown on her ult so she isn't able to use it almost every fight no matter the window or nerf the AOE on it so it isn't hitting everything in lane. It's like having Ashe's ult but instead of stunning one champ, it stuns multiple champs and slows everyone else.

I understand she's an engage heavy champ and I understand the basis around her kit is to have as much CC as possible, but she does her job too well for how easy she is to use and how spammable her abilities are. Even Alistar, who has the same champ concept which is heavy CC engage, has long cooldowns on his CC abilities. Nautilus has long cooldowns. Leona isn't overpowered. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing the fact that her abilities are too spammable making her kind of busted.

I understand post level 6, she has to all in when she engages and can't really get away, but her spammable stuns make it very easy for your ADC to get a kill unless they have a disengage support or her W, making her more tanky than she already is, gives her enough survivability to sustain enough to leave the fight with more health than the enemy. To put it simply, she's tanky enough to all in and still be fine and she does enough damage by herself to almost guarantee a kill if her ADC helps.

My proposal is to increase her level ult CD to 120 or make the AOE on her ult smaller and increase her Q CD to 10-14.

TL;DR Her Q CD is too short, her R CD is too short and her R is too effective. Even though she is dealing more damage than she needs to as a CC tank support, the fact that her CC is so spammable is what makes her seem overpowered despite her not being overpowered. Increasing her Q CD to 10-14 and increasing her R CD to 120 OR nerfing the AOE on her ult would make her a lot more balanced and fair to play against. She would still function the way she is supposed to by locking down everyone, but she just wouldn't be able to do it as often and freely as she is now.

17 Comments

Jonesybones11/10/2019, 5:49:23 AM5 votes

Nerf leona..... she's a healthy support. you're on crack

meowwow711/10/2019, 6:00:48 AM2 votes

i got a chuckle out of ali being gated by his cd when in reality it's his mana cost

Luna Ather Solis12/4/2019, 4:08:28 AM2 votes

before you cry nerf leona should look at her patch notes, leona is one of thee most nerfed champion in league of legends history, she got nerfed from a solo lane tank into a support. Her kit got gutted so much she cant even solo lane anymore she just a bottom lane baby sitter for the past 5 years.

ThisManBaku1/25/2020, 5:50:24 PM2 votes

Shes so unfair, the amouth of skill she requires is LAUGHABLE shes that champ for braindead supps, which is fine. BUT WHY DOES SHE OFFER SO MUCH she has 3 hard CCs in her kit with DMG reduction so that she doesnt take any, its BS. Her costs are WAY 2 LOW, as are her CDs.

DuskDaUmbreon11/10/2019, 5:45:51 AM1 votes

You forgot this.

Wtf actually happened to her? Like she was fairly weak last time I checked. Tf actually happened?

BrightWîngs1/15/2020, 8:21:02 PM1 votes

The problem here is that stunning is ALL SHE DOES and making the cool downs longer will most likely gut the champion. The thing is with Leona is her stuns are short and layered on top of each other to lock someone down. However the second someone buys item 3111 or runs the tenacity rune she becomes A LOT more weak because again stunning is all she does. Not to mention first picking the champion is often a death sentence she is one of the most counter picked supports (understandably so) but even I dont like first picking Leona just because I KNOW they are going to hit me with a Morgana Thresh Braum Alistar these champions make her laning borderline useless.

Making the Q 10-14 seconds a little much no? I mean its just a 1 second stun that is a melee auto attack I think if you're gonna nerf it id say like 6 7 or maybe 8 second but 10 to 14 is just bonkers for a basic ability. R ult CD I agree is pretty low since she also naturally build CDR first. However the stun AOE is fair and if your champion has a dash its easy to avoid out right this is why most of the time what you should be doing as Leona is E, R, Q this way it guarantees the lock down and the ult to land.

Leona herself doesnt deal a lot of damage its the application of her passive and the team mate porccing the passive which in a sense she does the damage but she needs a teammate to do it. They also took away the Auto attack buff on her R so she does less damage than before.

Playing against most champions like Leona positioning is SUPER KEY they thrive on people being out of position. Which is a very common thing in your elo ( not shaming you ) but Leona, Blitzcrank, Morgana, Thresh, Nautilus, Alistar, Lux are very difficult champions to deal with when you dont have the necessary know how to deal with them. I know because I was there too I HATED blitz so much but later realized these champs are 100% not as strong as they once appeared.