Exhaust in the view of a talon main

GM4tL8dFsI·Jul 5, 2015·2 votes·1,048 views

How is exhaust even allowed to be as overpowered as it is? It completely negates an assassin's entire kit with one click and the CD is extremely short so there is no real window of opportunity in the late game, and one exhaust in the late game is all it takes to win... For the love of god change this summoner spell, no summoner spell should have THAT much of an impact in a game. It's supposed to be used as a special tool to save you when you make a mistake, not remove an entire champion from a fight.. ~Sincerely Talon main who is still salty about the silence nerf but soraka's huge silence pool buff.

26 Comments

AyRe CoNteMpTJul 5, 20158 votes

man you really make me cry ;D you must have really missunderstood the concept of an assassin. a proficient assassin gets in, takes out his target and gets out. the guy who goes in and dies is a kamikaze-pilot and even if thats also some sort of assassin-ish role, its definitely not how talon or any other assassin in league of legends works.

this is generally how talon works in teamfights: he waits until the action begins and people lose their focus on him, then he runs in with ghostblade and probably flash, jumps on the backline, unleashes his burst and tiamat in one big instant combo and gets the fuck out until his cooldowns are back up. sure talon probably is one of the assassins who are more likely to die, but generally speaking you are not on a suicide mission here.

also, exhaust isnt there to get you out of mistakes. its EXACTLY to take out major threats for a short window of time so you can either ignore or fight them. the only summoner spell designed for real noobs to get out of fuck-ups is flash, but you use that yourself so dont complain.

you probably just need to learn more about your positioning and timing. if janna has all her cooldowns inc. exhaust up, its probably not your timing to jump in yet.

also its funny how you talk about short CDs with talons ultimate literally having 33 seconds cooldown at rank5 with max cdr.

LadyRenlyJul 5, 20156 votes

if its so OP, why not use it yourself, doesn't your passive synergize with it?

Moulin RougeJul 5, 20155 votes

Poor poor talon main...

lol

MatezoideJul 6, 20154 votes

> Plays Talon > Cries about Exhaust

ayy

CreationFlawJul 5, 20152 votes

"Because I'm an assassin. I expect to die after killing my target, if I go in I'm most likely not coming out alive there is no point in taking exhaust."

Bitch you bad at Talon then.

NemeBroJul 5, 20151 votes

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"Because I'm an assassin. I expect to die after killing my target, if I go in I'm most likely not coming out alive there is no point in taking exhaust."

Bitch you bad at Talon then.

Considering that he's a diamond Talon main and you're, well, not, he's probably a lot better at Talon than you.

I don't advocate pulling rank in a debate, but when you make stupid posts like this you open yourself up to it. Think before you post. Or at least check someone's rank on lolking before you call someone several divisions higher than you bad.

JupıterJul 6, 20151 votes

Dude, I don't care if they're a challenger Talon. They should not expect to die as an assassin after going in. Katarinas don't expect to die after going in, Rengars don't expect to die after going in. Assassins shouldn't die after killing their target. Assassins have like thirty ways (figuratively) to get out of a fight.

pripustasJul 6, 20151 votes

Except Talon doesn't. He needs E to engage, he needs ult to burst. He doesn't have any other escapes, like uhm Kata-uhm-rina with 6sec cd jump on any target. I never played Rengar, but if I'm correct he doesn't need his ult for damage, he can use it to escape.

Nameless VoiceJul 6, 20152 votes

No summoner spell should have a huge impact on the game?

summoner 4 Make plays, initiate, escape.

summoner 14 Increase damage output and secure kills, completely cripples healing champions.

summoner 11 Controls baron and dragon, can decide the game.

summoner 12 Grants massive global map pressure, can turn teamfights, save towers/allies, or contest objectives.

GM4tL8dFsIJul 5, 20151 votes

Because I'm an assassin. I expect to die after killing my target, if I go in I'm most likely not coming out alive there is no point in taking exhaust.

SatedCancerJul 5, 20151 votes

Why should ignite remain so overpowered, that i survive some damage an some random ignites me an i die cause outplayed!!!!!! i agree i hate exhaust, its the bane of being an adc main. i play vayne there is 5 low hp enemys i go with with my ult exhausted fuck@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

GM4tL8dFsIJul 5, 20151 votes

Okay then remove ignite, it doesn't negate an entire champion. You seem to think your straw mans are equal but they're not at all similar. Exhaust is guaranteed to have value unless you randomly walk up to someone at 1 minute and exhaust them, ignite is not a guarantee.

SaltyKrackaJul 5, 20151 votes

...OP, you play an assassin with a **75 ** second cooldown on your assassination pattern at its very longest.

If you can't do your thing while Exhaust is on cooldown, that's on you.

DroogzyJul 5, 20151 votes

Was about to say, you're complaining about exhaust cool down when Talon's ultimate/assassination rotation is on a 40 something second cool down?

What?

DJ Di0Jul 6, 20151 votes

You can use Talon ult ~4-5 times in the time Exhaust is on cooldown. Not really sure why you think it's so overpowered (other than the fact you main an assassin.)

Craft ZeppelinJul 6, 20151 votes

erm and to top it all, youre invisible when you press ult

ChaddyFantomeJul 15, 20151 votes

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erm and to top it all, youre invisible when you press ult

Big fucking woop.

Lasts 2 seconds and tells the enemy where you are when it is done. Compared to every other stealth champ who's invis is either a basic ability or their passive and lasts 5 evers. Only other one is Rengar and his lasts 6everz.

Now let us compare to figgin Xerath who gets to aoe snipe/burst people from across the map, Yasuo who gets an AOE multi target Untargetable Blink that gives him free 50% armor reduction that can be triggered by any given teamate with a displacement aswell as refressing his shield, Riven who gets a free AD item 3089 , increased range and an AOE Ranged Execute, Poppy who can just completely ignore 4/5th of the enemy team, all enemy and jungle mobs , turrets, dragon AND Baron as well as doubling her damage on one target, Tryndamere who straight up ignores death Ekko who litterally just presses the RESET button or Vayne who gets free stats steroid and gets to go invis every time she Q's.

I'm tired of people simply claiming X is OP just because they have something good. What would be the point of playing a champion is nothing on them was good?

You can litterally do what you just did with any given champion, just as I just did in this post.

CalabokJul 6, 20151 votes

Talon mains should not complain.

Mecha MaIphiteJul 6, 20151 votes

Talon literally has the fastest burst of any assassin, you don't even need to stick on to your target because they're already dead within 0.5 seconds.

ChaddyFantomeJul 15, 20151 votes

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Talon literally has the fastest burst of any assassin, you don't even need to stick on to your target because they're already dead within 0.5 seconds.

This is factually incorrect.

If talon is even deletling you in so much as 1 second, you fed his ass hard and he has 5 items.

LordGeovanniJul 6, 20151 votes

assassins have the highest base and scales in the game besides marksmen and the lowest cool down skills and build cdr marksmen always their window of opportunity and they do one combo and wait 2-4 seconds for another combo. assassins have no room to complain on anything no one with hard cc is constanty viable to help beat assassins and you need 2-3 of those guys to beat assassins and the rest of their team

ChaddyFantomeJul 14, 20151 votes

Exhaust is definitely OP, but you are just bad at Talon, OP... :/

GM4tL8dFsIJul 14, 20151 votes

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Exhaust is definitely OP, but you are just bad at Talon, OP... :/

That explains why I'm in diamond 3 with a world ranked talon and you're in bronze 2.

ChaddyFantomeJul 15, 20151 votes

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That explains why I'm in diamond 3 with a world ranked talon and you're in bronze 2.

Nice counterargument, or lack there of... If you look at my game activity instead of just what rank i am, you could tell how little I have been plying the game as of late and how little ranked I play in general.

So yes, you waste more time on this game than me. Congratulations. Want a medal with it?