waiting for AD zhonya

GM4tL8dFsI·Jan 31, 2015·2 votes·925 views

or removal of AP zhonya ^^^^

dont use the dfg removal as an excuse, these items were toxic and shouldn't have been created to begin with. 170 stats and invincibility with a useful build path.

12 Comments

DrCyanideJan 31, 20158 votes

item 3139 .

GM4tL8dFsIJan 31, 20151 votes

that's not even close to an equivalent.

DrCyanideJan 31, 20152 votes

Oh really?

Both give the maximum offensive stats in their respective tech tree
Both give defensive stats against the other tech tree
Both have an active that lets you get out of a tricky situation

GM4tL8dFsIJan 31, 20151 votes

"tricky situation" you mean one lets you draw up cooldowns and gives you an extra life

and one is meant specifically for adcs and is hardly used because it's unreliable

DrCyanideJan 31, 20153 votes

One forces you to realize "Oh crap, that's going to hit me and I'll be dead" and react before it hits you.

The other lets you realize "Oh crap, I just got hit by this CC/DoT and will be dead unless I get out" and react after it hits you. Alternatively, it can be used as a very, very clutch speed boost to avoid getting hit by something all together.

You can argue the merits of each situation, but at the end of the day there's no denying that item 3139 and item 3157 were intended as equivalent (not identical) items.

TalinisJan 31, 20153 votes

CAN AP have scimitar that removes CC or hexdrinker?, that early game shield in an all in is much better then armguards. Can AP actually have legit healing? whereas, ad, oh i got hit, i just melee this minion and now i'm back to full.

GM4tL8dFsIJan 31, 20151 votes

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CAN AP have scimitar that removes CC or hexdrinker?, that early game shield in an all in is much better then armguards. Can AP actually have legit healing? whereas, ad, oh i got hit, i just melee this minion and now i'm back to full.

hexdrinker isn't even a good item.

Maximum ZileanJan 31, 20151 votes

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hexdrinker isn't even a good item.

False. Its a situational item, and pretty cost efficient. Its an item that you shouldn't purchase if you don't need it.

A good example of when to buy it is a Darius vs Kayle lane matchup. That shield can save you from alot more then you may initially think. But is only a good purchase if your against an opponent who is a heavy magic damage dealer like Kayle.

On AD carries, there are far better options since most other AD carries don't deal much magic damage.

DisasterSolaJan 31, 20152 votes

Can we have a 40AP item that builds from blasting wand and seekers armguard that costs 2400g and has the zhonyas active, then builds into a 3800g item with 120AP that scales off of HP?

LigerzzJan 31, 20152 votes

AD zhonya?

laughs hysterically

SukishooJan 31, 20151 votes

If you want such a thing go play SMITE, they have one. It's called an Aegis in their world which can be built by Physical and Magical damage users and gives neither an extra benefit but the stasis.

LongFur FoxJan 31, 20151 votes

Ok so if we get an ad zhonya are both of them going to be not toxic now suddenly?

The thing with putting you in a stasis is that very few ad champs want that stasis. They have enough in aa'ing instead of the stasis and only a few has escapes on such a low cd that the stasis would do anything but line them up for getting killed.

The same thing goes for qqs. Ap's don't have that so if they get initiated on they can die without getting their spells off. If played correctly however they get those spells of in the first place and a qss is not going to allow them to get the second rotation off.