by "extending the burst windows" i didnt know what would apply to half the class

omegaarab··8 votes·913 views

(read the whole thing before judement or i wont take u seriously)

does riot think its ok to leave assassins in thier current state? they gutted most (MOST) of the midlane ones and only added to the others, they took away nothing. katarina and lb is busted, as far as counterplay goes i dont see how ur supposed to counterplay katarinas ignite all in lvl 2 or 3, and lb is a even worse lane bully with slightly slower but better dmg. Rengar and khazix do the same thing they always did, except now they get punished less and are given way more tools. meanwhile zed and talon are just terrible while being the same feast or famine champs. Riot took away zeds dmg in favor of a gimic, and they took talons burst, range, reliabillity and speed in exchange for "parkour", out of combat slow moving mobility with a long animation and telegraphed. now u actually need a competent team to carry even if ur 15/2. meanwhile katarina can spam her long range instant blink with daggers the same hitbox as a damn fizz ult in lane. the tier list is basically as follows god(for assassins theyre pretty bad rn) katarina,lb rengar,khazix garbage gutted and left to die-akali,talon,zed,fizz,shaco now im not one to cry with no reasoning so let me explain why each champ is where they are

good- khazix- hes not too differant but has more options and a stronger isolated q, thats the problem his burst window wasnt affected while the others were lb- just overtuned, drop her numbers rengar-they redisributed power, but in the end hes still gonna oneshot u if hes even or fed katarina- is just broken, not even that hard to play they need to make it so her bad plays can be punished , wich is hard with her blinking everywhere

bad-akali- ult has no dmg and a cd, all she can do is comnbo ur half hp bar and die with no sticking power talon- gutted too much of him in favor of gimmicky mobility, expecting a champion like him to hit a 125 range aa on a carry in a teamfight AFTER UV used ue abilities is absurd, he doesnt have his blink, or fasw w and r, he can be bursted by the time his ult blades come back with no burst himself zed- zed was already pretty bad after the hail of s6 nerfs, but useable. now after lethality, plus ult and w changes hes in the shitter fizz just falls off early , is ult relaint, and has the talon problem where his burst window extended, plus requiring an aa after using ur small range gap closers to do any burst is sad ah shaco. they removed his only build that let him do his job, even if u go full ad ur q plus backstab will only do so much dmg(akali problem) then he has to land 2 more backstabs to be able to kill u, and they dont scale with crit so ur always gonna do no dmg, now hes some wierd nich korean on hit bruiser, hes no assassin

did i mention lee sin can assassinate somemone more reliably than talon early and doesnt fall off as early

changes id propose

  • make duskblade aa have extended range, make a new item with fixed range bonus range aa passive so adcs would nerf themselves by trying to abuse it,(lethalty and ad stats ofc) -revert the talon rework or just fix all his bugs, give him 2 quality of life buffs and one minor buff -akali- give her ult more dmg and give her sticking power anywhere so she lives long enough to get another ult on the adc -zed-im no zedplayer ,i know he gradually got worse as time continued from season 3 so gl fixing him if u care enough to fizz- redisribute some of his ult power to his q or w
  • katarina- exchange base dmg on daggers for scaling or something and maybe add a indicator to where she es so people who react fast enough can actially land a skillshot on her shaco- make him scale like caitlyn, make his e stronger( turn into a skillshot if thats what it takes for better dmg and or cc) lb- nerf her passives base dmg rengat- idk but im pretty sure the free crit is the problem, maybe u can take that off and give his q crit chance(that might sound retarded i dont play rengar so i wouldnt know) khazix- give him some counterplay 1v1 and make him actually be able to do something without isolation

15 Comments

Poske2 votes

And what makes you an expert?

Kha zix- Nothing really fking changed none evolves R. I actually think Riot is dumb for expecting people to evolve it Rengar- Is no longer an assassin. He is more Of jump > become olaf champ Talon is still dogshit parkour or not Zed doesnt feel like proper champion ever since they swapped his ulti position Le bl has been nerfed 3 patches in a row and you want more? Katarina is supposed to have highest dps in the game. This is first time this champion is viable even in high elo Fizz gained a bugged ultimate.. an auto resset.. Ekko change is the only 1 good To bad none ll play him as an assassin because hiting any of his abilities against good players doesnt happen Akali had a good change.. still kinda irelevant

omegaarab3 votes

u must not have read the whole thing lmao, that basically exactly what i said, except the akali one shes just worse, and i forgot ekko existed wasnt he a tank:p

Poske1 votes

I glanced at it

Your post hurts my eyes

Use some formating

And I disagree that le bl and kata needs nerfs But i am lil biased

omegaarab2 votes

well, to put it frankly u baiscally quoted exactly what i said while trying to criticize so maybe u should, and not only the restof boards thinl lb kata is op cuz they think everyone is op but the rest of the community as well

ßurst2 votes

Well what did you think was going to happen they knew most certainly what they were doing. They nerfed assassins and put a abuse-able tank mastery assassins dont have their early game in the mid lane which opens up to mages being able to stay alive much much easier mid so mages come into the meta the mastery made tanks strong so that brings tanks into the meta. Riot plans this out lol

omegaarab1 votes

yeah, but katarina and lb still craps on mages????????????????????????????????????????????????????

oh wait theyre basically mages themsleves now carry on

ßurst1 votes

Yay you actually get it lol they arent even assassins anymore lol

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

Akali no sticking power LUL

I mean I get she might die, but she can definitely stick.

omegaarab1 votes

2dc is a long time in a game like league, and if u tiem it right u can mobilty out of her first ult and she cant proc her q

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

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2dc is a long time in a game like league, and if u tiem it right u can mobilty out of her first ult and she cant proc her q

Just because her damage takes a long time doesn't mean she doesn't have 3 long range dashes.

omegaarab2 votes

her dashes are on a long cd, they take half or a fourth of a teamfight to came back up?

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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her dashes are on a long cd, they take half or a fourth of a teamfight to came back up?

Doesn't she stack 3 dashes? Did that get changed?

omegaarab1 votes

the 3 dashes are still there, but now there on each on a 2.5 sec cd

Xevestos1 votes

I have to say talon is absolutely fine, any buffs and he would be borderline broken, just fix his bugs.

I have been almost exclusively been playin talon on my smurf and now here on my main too, he actually might be a bit too strong if played correctly.

omegaarab1 votes

i know what ur saying, he is strong in low elo but goood players are never going to get hit with his second w or passive, its to easy to peel off or flash his dmg, adcs like trist ,ezreal vayne, have no worries when facing him if its not 1v1

even riot thinks he needs buffs, they noticed his awful win/playrate and that all lethality users are weak

they can atleaat revert his as and ms nerfs so u can actually land ur passive without ur abilities putting ur aa on dc and u being too slow too

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