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Daily Reminder that Shaco needs three tweaks

Sìel·9/7/2015, 7:33:13 AM·29 votes·9,317 views

Shaco's boxes become useless to use mid to late game in the jungle, and are very fragile when fighting. The boxes do not have scaling health so they die instantly on the first hit from any champ or monster. Teemo's shrooms were adjusted when they were reworked to allow melee 2 hits and ranged 3 hits to kill the shrooms. The same should be applied for Shaco's boxes.

The new devourer reveals Shaco when he is stealthed, the puppy is always visible and follows Shaco wherever he uses Q. This prevents any Shaco player from using devourer before sated.

Garen's new update puts an icon over the villain, this icon is on the real Shaco only.

38 Comments

RiotMeddler9/7/2015, 7:53:15 AM34 votes

We'll fix clones not getting the Villain marker in the next patch, it's not intended that that gives Garen's team a constant way to tell clones and champions apart.

The Devourer wolf does stealth when Shaco stealths. If there are certain circumstances that's not happening in let us know and we'll get them fixed.

Finally as far as Shaco boxes go I'd be really hesitant to mess with their health model without doing significant other work to Shaco, given that's going to impact his jungle clearing in particular. Definitely a thought worth noting in case we do a Shaco rework at some point though (nothing currently planned, there is some stuff it would be good to improve however).

Marthian9/7/2015, 7:34:56 AM7 votes

Or just needs a complete rework since he has several problems.

Godaren9/7/2015, 7:57:04 AM6 votes

Yeah he really needs a rework, he isn't fun to play against cause he destroys you in your jungle and isn't fun to have on your team cause he is such a garbage team fighter if he isnt not really fed. Very much feast or famine

xPineapplex9/7/2015, 7:41:15 AM2 votes

ill rest peacefully when they give shaco some love already. Didn't they say he was going to have changes like a century ago? ill be waiting....

ccseancc1439/7/2015, 7:44:45 AM2 votes

No shaco is a toxic champion and need to stay where he is.

RottedApples9/7/2015, 7:08:47 PM1 votes

i'm not sure why you people are buying devourer on shaco.

The SandMan NDS9/7/2015, 7:39:18 PM1 votes

The 3 tweaks:

  1. Delete him
  2. Ban anyone who plays him a ton
  3. Make saying his name a reportable offense.
ThatToxicTroll9/7/2015, 9:23:21 PM1 votes

i bet riot puts %hp true damage on him to rework him because reasons

dramier9/23/2015, 11:36:09 AM1 votes

as some one who plays shaco ap or ad if you make his boxes like the shrooms they become op it should scale with ap like the turrents of heimer but i believe there are much bigger problems with shaco. lets start with his q if you build infinity edge item 3031 and his q is level 4 combined with your passiv you do 300% damage so you can almost 1 shot adc after your q change it to base damage buff his base stats and most important give his clone olso the buff from the camps let you controll the clone after death and you can make the clone explode fix the ap ratios and you will play him more of a adbruiser or ap

Denims Wrath6669/7/2015, 8:48:48 AM1 votes

I suggest allowing him to hit clone while stealthed and give him an extra 2 seconds of stealth when you do this. giving the boxes scaling health per point and shacos % health wouldnt be an issue early game either. also, while you're at it, at least give the clone fake buff indicators so you cant spot which one is which as easy. heck, here's a crazy idea, make shaco like zed where the clone does everything you do. if you did that you could make it so when shaco get his ult he has the clone as an active that he can trigger detonate if he wanted to.

Häßlich9/7/2015, 2:10:23 PM1 votes

"The new devourer reveals Shaco when he is stealthed, the puppy is always visible and follows Shaco wherever he uses Q. This prevents any Shaco player from using devourer before sated."

This isn't actually true. They can only see the pup when they can see you. Tested.

TurquoiseYoshi9/7/2015, 3:23:04 PM1 votes

1: Shaco's is supposed to be useful early, useless late. He has to make the other jungler worthless if he wants a chance to win. If he doesn't, he shouldn't deserve the chance to rebound.

2: Proof?

3: We have an anti-stealth champion RekSai, an anti-mage Kassadin, an anti-marksman Urgot, anti-poke Braum, anti-fun Riven, and an anti-tank Trundle.

So why can't we have an anti-clone champion?

VexingRaven9/7/2015, 4:52:19 PM1 votes

Shaco's boxes become useless to use mid to late game in the jungle, and are very fragile when fighting. The boxes do not have scaling health so they die instantly on the first hit from any champ or monster. Teemo's shrooms were adjusted when they were reworked to allow melee 2 hits and ranged 3 hits to kill the shrooms. The same should be applied for Shaco's boxes.

I think a modified version of this should be applied, because 2 melee hits would be a nerf at most points in the game. Doing wraith, they wouldn't even take the first volley from all the wraiths.

Garen's new update puts an icon over the villain, this icon is on the real Shaco only.

This is far from the only bullshit way to identify the real shaco. Buffs, pings, debuffs, DoTs, can all reveal the real shaco.