Buff Hecarim

Leggie·12/18/2014, 11:44:31 AM·5 votes·1,491 views

He's underpowered and needs help. I propose the following changes.

Q--- Make it so damage done with Rampage heals hec for a larger percentage via spirit of dread. Currently all damage sources heal for 20%, Rampage should heal for 30%. This allows hec to still heal a significant amount without being too powerful.

W---Aside from the above changes, I would lower the ap scaling and add in a health scaling. Decreasing the cd would also be nice, but not necessary.

E--- Lower the cooldown, otherwise it's fine.

R--- Honestly I think the shock wave doing more damage was a healthy mechanic, but I suppose it's fine the way it is.

16 Comments

Leggie12/18/2014, 1:29:45 PM2 votes

Would like a red's opinion on hecarim.

Leggie12/18/2014, 2:49:09 PM2 votes

Save the pony

ValyrianBlade12/18/2014, 2:45:36 PM1 votes

Hecarim is receiving +30 Max hp regain on his w at all ranks in the pbe.

Also, stalkers blade is changing from 50% MS reduction on target to 20% ms steal, which is a buff to hecarim and a nerf to everyone else using that item (20% steal is only a 40% difference for you and a 20% difference for teammates as opposed to 50% for your team).

With respect to kit issues, maybe you need to adapt your build. I always build the warrior enchantment instead of juggernaut which is suggested, because as you commented you need early damage. I follow that with Sheen which is ridiculously core on hecarim - otherwise I build no damage. Most people build Sheen in to trinity force - all three components are excellent on hecarim and I understand that it's possibly the best item for him - but it's too expensive. For your gold value, iceborn gauntlet is simply a MUCH better option - it also adds a slow and even more aoe damage to your kit which hecarim loves.
Defensively, frozen heart is also an amazing item for hecarim due to its tankiness and cdr. That said, the health on randuins omen is better if you can afford it, and the cdr on frozen heart will be overkill if you also build a spirit visage. So my general rule of thumb is if I'm doing okay or am ahead, build spirit visage and randuins, if I'm behind build frozen heart (and later get my mr from a banshees veil, although soon zz'rot portal will be an option).

You're pretty much saving 1000 gold going iceborn gauntlet instead of trinity force, and another 500ish going frozen heart+banshees instead of randuins+spirit visage (although the latter exchange costs you a LOT of health so I don't recommend it unless you're really strapped for cash).

Leggie12/18/2014, 4:40:52 PM1 votes

Bump, added in some actual ideas for changes.

ComannderShepard12/18/2014, 5:09:43 PM1 votes

Trust me, right now he is pretty good in the jungle. Go try him out.

coppinslinger12/18/2014, 5:28:57 PM1 votes

I've seen Hecarim do really well top and mid lane in Masters+ elo and the LCS expansion tournament. He has a really strong lane-phase and can roam well to snowball his side-lanes.

He's already getting buffs on the PBE, so I don't really see a problem with him at the moment. I've heard that his jungling sucks now though because of mana problems (the fix that is being proposed on the PBE).

Your proposed changes would give him way more sustain and a lot more spammable spells. All I can see is this making his lane-phase more dominant but "might" make him a higher-tier jungler. But who-cares if a champion is good in the jungle if they are god-tier in lane (Hi Maokai).

In summary, I don't really agree with your proposed changes and think the current PBE changes are what the Pony needs. Feel free to disagree with me.

BeatzBoyFTW12/18/2014, 11:50:16 AM1 votes

I heard they're granting him buffs in the next patch. Still looking for the website containing his buffs.

Ultra Animal12/18/2014, 5:59:29 PM1 votes

Please check newsoflegends.com for any pbe news and info on upcoming patches

Kowe The Ewok12/18/2014, 2:29:37 PM1 votes

I'ld recommand to read this to have a closer look what his problems are, what their source is and why Hecarim even though he's in an incredibly bad spot right now managed to perform well at the NA LCS.