"Good game" but no game feels like a good game.

Sintama··127 votes·4,962 views

I have played League for about two years now, and the games don't feel "good." Ever since the start of S6, all the games are stomp or be stomped, and 90% of the time end at 20 minutes with one team forfeiting. Nothing feels like a "good" game. The enemy team picked Xin, so he gets sated with guinsoos and they win with ease. Or Yi, or Shyvana. It's too easy to predict the outcome of a game just in champ select.

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Dataless15 votes

Saying "gg" is a courtesy, it's proper sportsmanlike conduct.

Some games are good, some are bad, and some are the stuff of legend. Best not to dwell on these things, otherwise all you're doing is highlighting the negative parts of your experience.

Troll for Trump31 votes

not when half of the people put ez at the end because they were playing Graves.

Not when they spam gg a million times. Not when they spam emoticons.

No, don't say GG when the score is 20-7, with you spamming your taunts and emotes 24/7, and purposefully dragging out the game.

Don't say ggs in 5v4s. Please.

Tobias Brackner3 votes

If they are dragging out the game all they are doing is giving you a chance to win. If they want to throw that's on them.

Troll for Trump8 votes

That doesn't excuse the other reasons. Please at least address those.

It's very hard to come back from games. Possible, but very slim. If they extend the game, they have killed everything except for your nexus basically. Due to the minion snowball, it becomes very difficult to push. Teamfighting with the amount of hypersnowball in the game is difficult. The only option to comeback through pushing is to take baron. That's hard to do because you are turtled in your base, and can't ward. The ward limits means you can't place wards everywhere to stay safe. You can't leave the base or the minions swarm nexus.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

Or having long deathtimers kill them / game is long enough that everyone is full build and gold doesn't matter. Also you are describing an awkwardly specific scenario of everything but the Nexus is dead and I'm not sure how practical that is for decision making.

Also the other reasons are personal preference, what the fuck is there for me to address?

Troll for Trump3 votes

They stall, but not that much. Basically, they can do a multitude of things. I don't mean extend the game for like 30 minutes. Maybe 5, at most, but they are pure torture. Then they just sit outside your nexus dancing around spamming taunts, and annihilating anything that comes close to the nexus inhibs. Even with two, or one lane open, it happens.

More frequent scenario: Instead of ending the game right off the bat, after winning a teamfight, they kill mid turret, mid inhib, and two nexus turrets. They get the nexus to 1/2 hp ish, while everyone spams taunt and the mastery emote. You spawn, try to save base and die. Minions can end up killing the nexus. They could have a nice guy who actually keeps attacking the nexus. Or, as soon as things start to look bad, they kill it at the last second, followed by a shower of "gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg"

Also the other reasons are personal preference, what the fuck is there for me to address?

They are common things that annoy people. "Oh you are offended by homophobic slurs, that's a personal preference, no need for it to be addressed" (hyperbole) "Oh you said "reported" and "ggez". That's personal preference and shouldn't be reportable and punishable."

Tobias Brackner1 votes

" Maybe 5, at most, but they are pure torture." 5 minutes. Are you seriously getting salty over the slim chance of 5 minutes of dealing w/ douches? Hell I've been in plenty of games where they pulled that shit and then threw the whole fucking game from it.

If they are annoying you then mute them?

Troll for Trump3 votes

People get "salty" when people spam pings or emotes. People get "salty" when people say "ggez". If you explain it objectively, from a apathetic point of view, then sure, it sounds dumb.

But we have emotions. Some people are just sensitive.

Yes, I can mute them dragging out the game for 5 minutes. I can mute away their ping spamming, taunt spamming, and "you have been slain"

Tobias Brackner1 votes

This very rarely happens to me so I don't know what kind of horrible world you are playing in. And not gonna lie, this shit is babytown frollics in terms of "I'm sensitive and it gets me upset." Get over it. Git gud. Nothing feels better than watchin someone slowly stop spamming emotes more and more as they get their ass kicked.

Troll for Trump2 votes

You can think people should "get over it" and "git gud"

Unfortunately, Riot doesn't share your views.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

Yes they do? I mean, yeah there is a report button for people who are being unrepentant ddoucchers even after you ask them to stop an shit but you also got to remember that the game literally has a taunt emote.

Troll for Trump1 votes

I think spam taunting is "unsportsmanlike conduct"

Tobias Brackner1 votes

Then report them.

DragonOfTheVoid1 votes

I can get 2 wards down ezy add that with a pink and that's 5 pinks and 10 normal wards that a lot the problem is that no one wards

okino2 votes

The one I hate most is when the enemy says GG before the game even ends. It's usually right at the 20 minute mark. It's a taunt that honestly kind of hurts because when they do that it feels like when we do FF, they win just more than a game. They rub it in before it even finishes, y'know?

Tobias Brackner2 votes

I hate it when my team says that shit more.

People give up too easy sometimes.

Comrade Guylas2 votes

Yeah. So many times we have an afk, or we got completely smashed in a one sided game by a super strong pick. Then the enemy team has the audacity to go, "GGEZ." It's so annoying, it's just toxic really. Then they sit by your nexus and spam emotes and champion mastery.

I'm not saying that this is what happens every game and infact, this rarely happens to me, but when it does, it's just unfun :( Even when there's no afk or it wasn't a one sided game, and it was actually a gg. That one guy has the audacity to just go "GGEZ", You have to wonder, why say that? Just why? Please be the person that doesn't drag out the game, the person that actually attacks the nexus, and just says gg.

Lazypeon1002 votes

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not when half of the people put ez at the end because they were playing Graves.

Not when they spam gg a million times. Not when they spam emoticons.

No, don't say GG when the score is 20-7, with you spamming your taunts and emotes 24/7, and purposefully dragging out the game.

Don't say ggs in 5v4s. Please.

I always say gg wp at the end, unless they obviously have a troll or someone afked making i a 4v5.

Then I just say "WP." Because it is still proper sportsmanship, but I don't want to come off like a dick to the other players. Also, don't condemn people who do say GG at the end of those games. So long as they aren't actively taunting you or anything like that, chances are they are trying to be good sports about the game.

Xilixer3 votes

saying gg when you know your team stomped the crap out of them or they lost due to a troll or afker. dont say gg. its very insulting especially when it definitely wasnt a "good game" for them.

Tobias Brackner1 votes

See this is all interpretation. If they don't ff or otherwise keep on holding their own despite the setback then it's a gg. At the end of the day they all still had an opportunity to learn their champ more, learn how to interact w/ their team more, and overall get better at the game.

P0oHiHOhLh5 votes

Its quite clear you only came to this thread to try and piss people off. Please grow up.

Dataless1 votes

I believe it's good manners, even if it's an utter stomp. I acknowledge that the other players tried their best and thank them for their time. I can understand people feeling insecure or upset over being stomped on not wanting to say "gg" but that's their issue not mine. Losing to a troll or because of an AFK sucks, but my intentions are always pure and my conscience is clear.

Xilixer2 votes

regardless of your intentions. its not how you feel about it but them. heck you might as well just start trash talking them. cuz thats how bad they already feel when you say gg.

Dataless1 votes

That has nothing to do with me and everything to do with them, I cannot be responsible for the feelings of others. This is the internet.

Xilixer2 votes

what you say or do here doesnt really matter i agree. except in match it does. whether you agree or not. saying gg when your team stomped them or beat them due to a troll/afk is quite insulting to that losing team. because how in any way, shape or form could that have been a "good game" for them. personally if my team absolutely stomps or beats them with a troll/afk on their team. i refuse to say gg. because in fact it was not a gg. simply throwing out gg at the end of every match makes it pointless and loses its actual meaning.

Dataless1 votes

Those are your personal feelings, and while I respect them they have no bearing on me. If I'm playing Basketball, for example, and my team utterly DESTROYS the other team in completely demoralizing fashion, I will still shake the opposing players hand and say "good game." League is no different in my mind.

Lazypeon1001 votes

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regardless of your intentions. its not how you feel about it but them. heck you might as well just start trash talking them. cuz thats how bad they already feel when you say gg.

At the end of a sports game, the players are supposed to treat each other woth respect and say "GG" even if it was a stomp. It's a matter of respect. In games I feel truly weren't good, I just say WP.

Maximum Morde11 votes

Lies. I've had some matches that were knuckle biters. Back and forth neither team could quite get an advantage.

GlockHammer7 votes

To me it seems not to matter how well I do in lane, the only thing that matters is having a better teamcomp than the opposing team. Solo carrying a game borders on impossible. Season 6 is just as garbage as previous seasons, the introduction of a fuckton of mechanics and items no one asked for hasn't spiced up the game, it's made it overbearing. I'm just gonna get my platinum badge then I won't touch this game anymore.

FortisDominus3 votes

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To me it seems not to matter how well I do in lane, the only thing that matters is having a better teamcomp than the opposing team. Solo carrying a game borders on impossible. Season 6 is just as garbage as previous seasons, the introduction of a fuckton of mechanics and items no one asked for hasn't spiced up the game, it's made it overbearing. I'm just gonna get my platinum badge then I won't touch this game anymore.

^so much this

A Prop Phone2 votes

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To me it seems not to matter how well I do in lane, the only thing that matters is having a better teamcomp than the opposing team. Solo carrying a game borders on impossible. Season 6 is just as garbage as previous seasons, the introduction of a fuckton of mechanics and items no one asked for hasn't spiced up the game, it's made it overbearing. I'm just gonna get my platinum badge then I won't touch this game anymore.

Also climbing back to plat after terrible placements. Then uninstall and forget.

Kaleidos6 votes

I wish I had games like yours, the only time my games are predictable are during the laning phases, anything after that becomes a complete gamble on what can or can't happen and I usually end up scratching my head and wondering just what happened for things to turn out the way that they did most of the time (then I watch the replay and get treated to a front row seat as to what happened and go "Oooh, so that's why").

Kitty Clarissa5 votes

fun fact. people who say "gg ez" got carried :v

ayNigerianPrince2 votes

Or they're playing Yi. In which case they're right.

The Quîckness4 votes

The game ends at champ select, its awful. one team will be a t a HUGE disadvantage just because of what the other team picks.

Trashkuun4 votes

I've been reported simply for doing my job the best I could and not saying GG at the end of the game makes me "salty" and that I am a "bitch" because it was a good game for the enemy team. Especially being a jungler and I play Diana mainly there. Lately I haven't wanted to jungle at ALL because of the bullshit jungle combos and not being able to ban things that make the game harder. Cheap champions, devour isn't really a problem, it's the rageblade and duskblade that make me scream in the middle of matches.

I was a fully built, sated, spell vamp, lifesteal, speed to all hell Diana and a Kha with half his build could 1v1 me because of the duskblade proc. That is NOT okay. Even when I had teammates to help, he would shred all of us and walk out with a little under half health. There was another time I was playing Vayne top because the enemy top laner picked Jax. (How he got through the banning phase baffles me since I begged my team to ban him.) I was literally murdering him constantly until he got rageblade built and it was GG top lane. I lost lane so fast for Jax rushing one item when I had three different items already built.

I am admitting that I am not the best Vayne player or Diana player. Diana is just someone I enjoy playing (but she is basically useless for almost the entire game because of the BS junglers that always counter pick.) I just want to have fun and this game is turning more into a slaughter or be slaughtered scenario and I am tired of it. I am tired of being blamed for "feeding" a lane when I ping to gank and then they run away after I have engaged fully. I am TIRED of having to play against Zed mids because that is ALL that gets picked unless it is banned.

NO ONE I play with says they actually enjoy the game. The only time I have been able to enjoy the game is if I take Heimer mid or top, but then that isn't fun either. Sure I carry lane and push like no one's business, but that isn't fun. I want something that actually takes strategy and skill to play. I have taken multiple champions mid against Zeds and it seems like NO ONE counters him anymore. Jax top lane? Good luck after he rushes a rageblade because that is what ANY Jax player does.

All I've started saying after games is "Game" not even good game, bad game, just game. End of match. Done. Even if I win I don't feel good half the time because the only times I win is if I take bullshit champions. Season 6 has just been crap since it opened. Mages have been screwed over like no ones business, AD assassins can literally tear through any tank they want simply because they can. It's not fun.

The only time I say GG is in an ARAM because that is random and God knows who is going to win.

Ionian1 votes

Lifesteal on Diana? Am I reading that right?

Trashkuun1 votes

Yes, what of it? Have you ever just had a Diana shred into you and no matter how hard you started hitting she just started to heal with each smack to the face? Everyone says my Diana builds suck, but damage I do and shit I get done speaks louder than "meta".

Ionian1 votes

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Yes, what of it? Have you ever just had a Diana shred into you and no matter how hard you started hitting she just started to heal with each smack to the face? Everyone says my Diana builds suck, but damage I do and shit I get done speaks louder than "meta".

Depends on the elo you're playing at. Everything works in silver.

LuxannaVeritas3 votes

Agreed and upvoted.

I say gg to be nice but... champ select is like the eight ball of LoL sometimes. And it gets worse in game; if you start losing people start becoming toxic and then there's no hope for winning.

I wish there were more games that felt close, and less games with people throwing insults in the chat :/

Aerilus3 votes

Yeah about 1/5 games are actually 'good games' where the winning team had to struggle to defeat the losing team and it was very close.

The other 4/5 games are 1-2 people get fed on one team until they can kill any champ within 1 second and then drag the game out for 20 minutes to get even more fed.

Wimbleh3 votes

But make sure you dont try to forfeit at 20 minutes when the enemy team guinso/sated yi is 7-0-0. Make sure you dont die a lot when your top laner has been kill trading with the enemy xin who now is literally god mode. Make sure that you dont get discouraged (a.k.a negative behavior) when the enemy Zed mid is 6-1-0 because as soon as he hit level 6 he just killed your AP mid laner over and over.

Make sure that Riot's piss poor balancing that seems to be designed to piss you off DOESNT piss you off, or else you will likely be "Lyte Smited"

That is the current state of LoL and Riot Games. Impliment things into the game to piss people off, ban them for getting pissed off.

Cannot wait until this game dies tbh.

Swaid3 votes

Before, I looked at this game with optimism, but as i close to my seventh loss in a row I'm starting to feel fuckimg aggravated by this game. The more I play, the less it feels fun, its getting to the point every time I even feel like playing I just immediantly start to get frustrated since nothing I do seems to matter in this game anymore. I can ward for days, tank tons of damage, secure objectives, but nothing fucking works. I'm getting tired of League.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

You got Xin - We got Malphite. You got Zed - We got Zilean. You Fiora - We got Darius. You got Corki - We got Ashe You got Catfish - We got Mermaid.

All your champs are OP FotM. Isn't that nice. Now here's the bad news: Only one of you has semi-reliable CC.

VivaLaKitten1 votes

ZILEAN Zilean IS OP!?!!??!

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

No. But he has a nice little AoE stun and synergieses incredibly well with Darius.

TheWeatherWax1 votes

He works really well with divers too.. Poppy, Rek Sai... Ow the bomb delivery is a major pain with that cc. If you can get a good counterpick (and prevent the divers) you might be ok but he goes really well with Darius too. It's painful since killing him in lane is somewhat hard, he's a pretty safe laner.

VivaLaKitten2 votes

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