Together they have Slows Knockups Invulnerable Dashes Kalista e SHIELDS
No one's ever going to be able to play them unless u have blind pick because perma ban.
My pbe ign is -cest la vie
Eternal Torment2 votesyeah, together they have that but as a single champion they are just like anyone else. xayah has a very linear kit designed around her feathers, no 3 AAs, no true damage, no dashes or mobility. just an good ol adc. with tons and tons of fucking damage. the Thing is, however, you can very easily Play around both of them. Rakan often Needs to make a decision, will he either engage and all in with his ult, or will he engage and simply create a trade by dashing back to his team for the healing? xayah too, she Needs to decide just when she will use her ult, when she will use her E, and she Needs to decide fast. you can dodge xayahs damage procs with blinks and untargetability spells or very fast dashes like an akali R and Diana R that also bring them behind xayah where her feathers cant do jack to yourself. xayah also relies on landing her feathers for any roots to do or good damages, sure, xayahs damage in itself is broken, however, applying this damage is a challenge on her. rakan the same with his CC. his Q has an very underestimatedly short hitbox, his knock up is delayed by A a dash and B an animation and his shield is a single target ability with a short range on anyone that is not xayah. and even then dashing to the same Person a second time does not refresh or aditively stack the shield. meaning rakan has to Build quite some ap items for a support to get his numbers high enough to be considered useful. and his ultimate is crazy hard to use because you Need to effectively walk into a champion and not just get into a melee range to hit the charm.
all in all, These characters are crazy strong and useful, but just as crazy hard to use. rakan is very flashy and stilish, xayah is very linear, melancholic to say, and both are strong in what they do, but they are comparatively weak in their roles as a whole. even more so if you consider rakan has very small hit boxes and ranges. his knock up and his heal both have a Melee AA radius of range meaning you Need to be damn sure you can hit your shit to make him useful, making rakan a champion for the top elo Players if you were to ask me. xayah on the other hand is the complete opposite. she is a very noob friendly champion with an however surprising amount of indepth if you take a closer look and thought yes as i said myself her damage is broken and she is rather simple to pick up and use, making full use of xayah and landing her shit every single time takes some Skill and learning.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesInteresting response, i agree that as singles they are a simple champion; I also agree that rakan is honestly noob friendly. However, i want to point out that your pointing out their "on paper" weaknesses and as a Silver player even if I was able to miraculously not die vs them bot lane, i cannot guarantee it for my teammates because it only takes the smallest slip up.
What you said is pretty logical however the problem is that they just work **TOO **well with each other.. Other adc's are already weak when you look at this meta already so why make a super strong adc and support steroid when you can strengthen the other adc's at least..
Eternal Torment1 votesA xayah is the noobfriendly one xD B yeah xayah is strong. A little too strong and riot is likely gonna work around her numbers but she has very high potential. Rakan is a very pumped up support but yeah he is really hard to properly use. His hit boxes are tiny as fuck and everything in his kit has a delay. His charm has activation. His heal has animation. His shield has travel time. His knockup has a dash and animation. And his passive takes damn long to charge. So i think they created both champs to naturally work together as follows:
Rakan goes in. Xayah kills them all. Style points success.
Xayah gets focused. Rakan charms everyone. Xayah kills everyone.
The list goes on. These champions are if you ask me designed to work as a stereotypical hollywood kinda couple in the sense that alone you can fuck them sideways but together they got no brakes. No stopping that paintrain there. They still can be counterplayed hard by catching them off but they truly focus on this image of a couple working together. He initiates and peels. She does the dirty work and he looks good while helping.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesThey remind me fo that film that had vin diesel in it, Mr and Ms something..
Eternal Torment1 votesI think you mean Mr. And Mrs. Smith?
That was with brad pitt and angelina jolie thoe
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesYEA THAT MOVIE LOL
Vexed Hex1 votesHere is my prediction. Riot release them as is to live. People complain they are OP but in reality people just need to learn to avoid her feathers. Xayah gets nerfed then people learn to avoid her feathers. Xayah becomes useless and is never played in league ever again.
MissingKayo1 votesExcept Xayah's damage output is broken (and it's not that hard to land feathers either) and Rakan's mobility and utility is broken.
Vexed Hex2 votesIv watched several matches and if the ADC up against Xayah avoids the feathers, Xayah almost always gets wrecked. Over a third of her damage comes from the feathers. Also she cant chase after anyone either as she has no mobility abilities. She is strong when the enemy does not know how to deal with her but if you do she literally cant do anything about it. She has to rely on someone else to root or knock up the enemy to do decent damage which is where rakan comes in.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesWhich is why I'm saying bird lovers because **together **they are broken but apart they have obvious weaknesses.
My problem is that I have to deal with **both **bot lane...
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesThey really aren't, though, especially not in lane, where they have very little synergy. In lane, Xayah likes to poke with her passive, Q, and E, as going aggressive generally doesn't work unless you're a god of feather placement.
Rakan, on the other hand, is kinda like Leona, but with more AoE lockdown and less single target. He can't really poke in lane due to his extremely short range (literally the shortest of any ranged champ), so he's better at going in on the enemy, which is something Xayah sucks at. Of course, he can also peel well, but Xayah doesn't need help with that, as she's more than capable of self-peel. The only thing Rakan can do that compliments Xayah's playstyle is counter-engage, which there are supports who are better for.
Outside of laning phase, their synergy gets slightly better, as Rakan can group up and lock down enemies to allow them to be hit by her ult and E, but A) you'll never see anyone coordinated enough to do that in your SoloQ games, and B) Other supports can still do that better.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesYou are taking this too personal, I'm trying to open a conversation about these two champs that will have an effect on the game. Not offend you :p
A) I have seen coordination like it because I play games with and vs, discord is op bro. B) Maybe so Velkoz is still cancer, however, what velkoz lacks is mobility. I'm not saying that another silver bot lane will be the best, what I'm saying is that another silver bot lane may just beat me because of these two's unfair advantage with each other + that players skill level
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesI wasn't aware I sounded offended.
A) That's fair. It's still rather unlikely, though. B) That's the point I was making, though. They don't actually have very much innate synergy in lane, so despite the bonuses they get, they're no better than any duo that actually has said innate synergy, like Lucian-Braum. Their advantage is no more unfair than Kalista and tank supports, Kog'maw and Lulu, or any other duo with good synergy, it's just more forced than those examples.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesIdk i thought u were, anyway i do some what agree kalista + x support is pretty broken..
ChargeItDownMid2 votes[deleted]
Mig891 votesKindred Aurelio sol Taliyah All seem weaker than on release
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesY'know who else has all of those features except shields? Kalista. Who I know was broken as fuck on release, but is now actually quite balanced. And she has all of that on a single champion, not two.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesBut you can pin kalista down damn it...
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesKalista has infinite dashes and her support can bodyblock CC for her at no cost. If you can pin Kalista down, you should have no problem with Xayah.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesthats what im trying to say, kalista doesnt have a perfect match to cover up her weaknesses..
YoungSirJ0ey1 votesI literally just made a comment about this. Rakan doesn't cover Xayah's weaknesses in the slightest, in fact, he overlaps some of her strengths.
Leaf on Bush1 votesThey should give pbe access to players that are more ... constructive.
LICENSED HOOKER1 votes<3u2
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesidk if you guys are disliking because you cant play on pbe
or because you realize that these two are broken and want to play them badly..
LICENSED HOOKER1 votesThey laughed, its true.