One of the problems of bot (and the game really)

Recon1212··1 votes·983 views

So I just played a game that was very interesting. (Before I get hate, realize I don't play bot often). So in this game it was me as Tristana with a Zoe supp against Sivir and Brand. Straight off the bat I bet you can guess they were spamming away. I did my best to dodge what I could, but I simply couldn't dodge everything.

So with low health, I decided to back at level 4 because I was scared of a dive. I bought refillables and boots (in hopes I could dodge more). When I got back to lane, I was instantly met with spell after spell, and while never leaving tower range I was already at about 200 health. I backed again cause I didn't want to die.

7 minute mark came around and not only have we not gotten any help from jg or a roam from mid, they have our tower. They were able to zone us so easily that we lost tower without dying at 7 mins.

There are 2 things going through my mind right now.

  1. Why is this ok? Like why can two champs together be so outright impossible (or least what feels impossible) to face, and simply win because of it regardless of the players skill?

  2. What do I do in this situation for this not to happen? Like is there something I could've done differently that may have changed the outcome, or was I just destined to lose cause of the matchup?

I really wish league were a game that felt enjoyable to not only play but lose in. I remember the days when I could lose a game at 45 mins and feel like it was well fought and both teams deserved to win, but the other pull out on one play, whatever it may be.

Now it just feels awful to play, and win. I get into a game and in the first 5 mins I know how it will end. It doesn't mean I stop trying but when everyone is doing bad for whatever reason, it feels awful to try and stick it out and go the distance. When the scoreboard says 2-15 at 14 mins, I wonder whats the point of staying. Even if I think we can win, whose to say my team gives a shit and will try.

4 Comments

NY643 votes

To answer your first question, you lost because you were against a duo that was very dominant early while your duo would be more dominant late game, you did not stand a chance beating them early.

To answer your second question, there were some things you could have done. The most important thing that could have been done to change the outcome of bot lane is to have the right support, either you get blitz to pull that annoying brand or you get a healer like nami to just keep healing you the whole time.

And yes I know you can’t control what champion your ally support picks, so if they still pick something like Zoe, there are other things you can do, these things won’t win you lane, since the enemy duo is too strong, but they can at least make the experience less painful.

If you think the enemy will be better than you in lane and just poke a lot, get fleet footwork for some sustain, and have secondary resolve to get second wind and bone plating so you won’t take as much damage. You can even ask your support to get heal while you get barrier. When the game starts you could buy doran’s Shield instead of Doran’s blade. Again when it comes to early game, the support is who decides which side wins bot lane, so your support is your best hope at turning the tables.

And to respond to the last two paragraphs of yours, I absolutely agree. I hate that even if I’m winning or losing I’m not having as much fun as previous seasons, either you are winning so hard that it feels like fighting bots and games will end so quickly before you can buy your fun items or you lose so badly you can’t buy anything and just feel worthless and wait to surrender. They need to stop making this game so snowbally so both teams can enough morale to keep playing till it gets to intense late game where both teams are even.

I think one of the biggest roots of this problem is how bot tower is far weaker compared to other towers, if you have to leave at all while enemy is still in lane they can easily destroy tower to get first tower gold and the enemy bot duo can now roam mid and force that tower to fall and so on. Plus when bot tower is so weak it encourages everyone to just focus bot and have 5 people dive tower. It’s the worst feeling in the game in my opinion because there is no counterplay to it other than hoping your whole team is willing to help and some how come to bot in time. For the love of god riot please make bot turret stronger, get rid of first tower gold, and make towers deal more damage so early 5 man tower dives become impossible.

Kwattigor1 votes

your support should of went for something like leona or braum and also you should of just farmed with trist e it wasnt a auto loss just didnt set up right

Recon12121 votes

it was basically impossible to farm. If i got in auto range i would lose half my health. Brand would immediately W and Sivir just spammed Q's. I did what ever I could to farm but it was hard under tower even when they weren't trying to fuck me. I had no dmg to last hit under turret and when I did my E passive screwed the rest of the minions

Venompaw1 votes

Just run teleport if you're not planning to kill.

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