...so a fizz with full items can one shot me with 2 moves, Q and W, with 2 MR items Ahri. I get I'm weak with a little MR, but he didn't hit R, or E, and he can still one shot, with 2 target moves. I don't see how that works, I get hes fed but still what the fuck. Even if I zhonyas'd it wouldn't have mattered cause he'd just have CD. Whats the point of getting the only 2 MR AP items, if they don't help?
You had merc treads and a null magic mantle to his full build, two levels over you, and magic pen while you are playing a naturally squishy champion.
Okay so... Null Magic Mantle and Merc Treads is not "two MR items"
Banshee's and Abyssal is "two MR items".
If spending 900 gold on MR made a full build AP Assassin useless then...Fizz would be at a 40% winrate lol.
"I really doubt that with 2 full MR items he can get oneshot. There's no way, Banshee's completely denies Fizz."
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Null and Merc Treads.
Null. And. Merc Treads.
Lemme sympathize. I hate Fizz because the champion literally does nothing except have this one small window where he can kill you in the most mindless way possible...
BUT LITERALLY ALL FIZZ CAN DO IS KILL YOU IN A SMALL WINDOW AFTER WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE DEFENSIVE ITEMS THAT PROTECT YOU AGAINST HIM AND YOU SHOULD BE GROUPED. HE'S 6 ITEMS INTO THE GAME AND YOU THINK 45 MR IS REALLY GONNA CUT IT?
Welcome to falling behind as an assassin... to another assassin. The class is inherently snowbally, for better AND for worse.
welcome to the world of unavoidable tons of damage, featuring late game ADC's and fizz
Honestly this shouldn't be surprising. There's a pool of privileged champions that riot allows to exist that can play poorly up until masters and get way superior results to other champions. It's riot's way of catering to new players. I ban the worst offenders (for me thats fizz) .
he's my number 1 ban on ahri. a little mr isn't going to magically turn the table in a bad match up, especially not if they get fed. here's what you do:
Well for all we know, Fizz could be level 15 and Ahri could be level 12. There's more to it than just items, y'know.
So, I kinda relate to what you're saying in the Ahri vs. Fizz matchup. In the early lane phases, you can harrass him and deny him CS pretty easily, but once he gets to levels 3-4, he'll probably ask for a gank, and also he'll probably be harder to deny due to having his Q, W, and E now. Once he reaches 6, you have to respect his ult range, and once he completes Lich Bane, you have to respect that he can kill you, even if he misses his ult.
I've given up on trying to kill Fizz at all in my games vs. him, and I realize that you can only roam vs. Fizz when playing Ahri, unless he's super bad. The good thing is that Fizz has a very low impact on the game even if he gets kills, and he most likely will get fed regardless even if you don't feed him. So, try to keep your lane pushed as much as possible, and then roam. He will also roam as well, but Ahri can do it better I feel. You can keep Fizz coming back to mid lane to push the wave as well, which will waste his time and give you the ability to roam bot or top. If your jungler and you both roam at the same time, you can catch Fizz out of position, since he might follow your roam, and then you can both kill him. I do not suggest trying to kill FIzz unless you have a teammate with you though.
Due to how slippery Fizz is, I would ignore chasing him if you get him low, as it just wastes your time, and that's what he wants, and he'll try to bait you to follow and lead you to one of his teammates, which is most likely his jungler.
I hate the Fizz matchup, but I prefer it over Yasuo, since I don't want Wind Wall in my games. Wish I could have two bans to keep both out of my games.
Bitch you had null magic mantle and merc trends that ain’t gonna do shit
