Creative discussion the unplayable state of Shaco.

Gentleman Shaco·10/26/2017, 10:31:46 PM·6 votes·823 views

(opening thoughts an my play history background just to give you an idea i know what i'm saying.)

I've played every champ in the game multi able times over (sense S2) and normally while every champ has some weakness they can be abused by they usually have things they do very well also.

not Shaco an assassin with no dmg in his kit 1 poor scaling nuke that doesn't even do magic dmg anymore so super easy to itemize against a fed shaco and remove his "burst" (which is less then a thresh) and b4 you go crying duskblade op wtf you noob the item could make an adc leona do burst has nothing to do with the champ being broken unplayable or broken op.

remember the term olaf'd? i played alotttt of olaf when he was in that terrible state and it's miles better and less frustrating then the current state of shaco

an assassin as squishy as sona with terrible scaling the only thing worse then this was Eve the walking ward eons ago, normally when a champ is this bad this self handycapping (it is normally buffed/hotfix'd)yes even master shacos would be better on another champion in every situation even where shaco's good. in his current state he's the closest thing to a troll pick item 3070 Trundle item 3070

even in his scary 1 shot pre rework early game bully state he had way bigger weaknesses then most champions which where i'll admit irrelevant if you got ahead enough after the rework they pretty much removed all burst capabilities from his kit and made him a low sustain squishy "assassin" who sticks to you and SLOWLY cuts you down. if that's really the angle you want riot the just make him a fighter and buff his armor/mr/hp growths, you can't have a sona like melee hero with no burst do sustain dmg doesn't work you'll get batted around by the other 100+ champions who have CC/burst/steroid sustain dmg

the current way you have to capitalize with Shaco is as follows.

A. look for free kills and sneak on them

B. hit and run tactics over n over (yes multi-able times for 1 target.) to wear away at them until you can scrap/assassinate them (they have sustain forget it.)

C.hope the enemy is stupid and just make cheeky plays aggressively here and their. really is that what we've come to with bad champions relying on our opponents not being good or intelligent?

(closing thoughts) either work out a way for his burst to exist but maybe scale or be spread throughout his kit better or. buff his base states and make him a legit fighter and not just a sona with two doran blades item 1055 Sona item 1055 fear me i have bad true stealth and legit nothing else! rawr!

i would like anyone who knows a decent amount about shaco or who play vs./with him often to comment and give me your tldr opinions + fix suggestion and plz keep it simple and short or just say Rework if you think nothing short of something complex will fix him, ty! happy clowning everyone Shaco

if you made it this far ty for reading! i appreciate your time and any input you offer and wish you a good day and best of luck on the fields of justice!
 *[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

16 Comments

Eedat10/26/2017, 10:44:09 PM1 votes

an assassin as squishy as sona with terrible scaling

But Shaco scales quite well. Its his early game that is weak.

That being said, Shaco is still in need of absolutely no buffs. The counterplay to his Q was completely removed when it was changed to invisibility so until something abot that is done then he does need any more damage. Way too much utility frontloaded into one spell and absolutely noting you can do to counter it. Pretty much the rest of his power in concentrated in his Clone adding a ton of damage to him which is why he needs items to scale