So I just started playing pyke support and I am really having trouble utilizing him Is he a team reliant champion?? When should I start hooking and engaging ? Do I play him like a real assasin like zed or a support? What items do I rush Those are my three question on playing him honestly any advice for playing Pyke is appreciated
Hotarµ2 votes** General tips:**
-Never try to force engages when you think you can't win a sustained fight afterwards. Pyke has no DPS, it's mainly just a combination of burst and CC, so if your ADC can't get the damage going then don't put yourself in a bad position.
(IMO, 
goes well with: 
and can struggle against 
)
-Charging up and holding a hook is a great way to zone the enemy out of some CS. If you're under tower and won't get punished for it, try to push forward with your hook charged up to make them back off.
-When you/your adc is fed, don't be afraid to roam and get some easy kills with your ult to snowball the rest of your team.
-Damage, of course, is important on Pyke. But remember, building HP can give you some pretty solid AD in return. My usual build in almost every game is:
Start: 
First Back: 
first, then 
.
(mobility boots help so much with roaming and engaging, it's usually best to rush those.)
Essential Items: 
Building a 
when your game has a lot of teamfights can be a HUGE benefit. It's great because of the bonus Armor/MR, but the real benefit comes from the active. When you activate stoneplate and get the bonus HP, it's all converted into AD. Late game, using a stoneplate in the middle of a teamfight can give anywhere from 140-200+ AD (depends on level.)
is also a great option if the enemy has some pretty scary CC.
Specific Matchup Tips:
-For champions with escapes and high mobility, don't be afraid to try and predict their movement with a Q. If you see a 
jumping out of the way, holding on to your Q and being patient can net you some easy kills.
-When fighting 
(or pretty much anyone with good engage) don't let your ADC take all of the CC. If you body block an ability (such as a hook) you can quickly escape with an E before they can follow up. Pyke's E is an AMAZING movement option so don't be scared to use it in that way. **(It can also go over almost any wall in the game!)
**
-When fighting a , use your Q to deny him axes and shut him down early.
-
's windwall WILL block your Q and E entirely.
-If 
engages on you with a hook, you can pull him back into tower range/minion wave by using your E. Not only will it be a nearly guaranteed stun, it can put him out of his comfort zone and get a quick 
or net you an easy kill.
Illabethe1 votesYou are a horrible source of advice.
Cancels itself out on Pyke. You gain AD from the doubled HP, **but then Stoneplate halves it. **
are not the best boots on Pyke. 
are by far.
is asking to die. Support main Pykes actually spam 
, because they generally help him run the game until 
enters the equation. is something you buy when you are out of your normal elo and can fit it into your build without dying (also counters your no damage argument)
Hotarµ1 votesNo, I'm really not.
Mobility boots are definitely the best boots for roaming, which is what Pyke is supposed to do. Merc treads may be a close second, but mobis take priority almost every game when ahead.
Edit: here's a link to some pro-players and other high elo players building mobis, in case you still think I'm a 'horrible source of advice.'
https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Pyke https://gyazo.com/84f3bd4d938957ab17a3900cebfca586
Stoneplate works on Pyke. Yes, the damage reduction hurts his Q+E+AAs, but gives him a massive increase to his ultimate threshold, which is a bonus, especially in a teamfight.
(evidence for stoneplate:) https://twitter.com/lufty/status/1003056067260157955?lang=en https://www.reddit.com/r/pykemains/comments/8tf3ng/gargoyles_stoneplate_on_pyke/
Youmuu's and Duskblade, are, again, great when ahead. OP is unranked, so no, it really wouldn't be that bad. The point of the build example was to show that your support item takes priority. It isn't an instant "build this every game" win condition.
Check yourself before you comment something stupid. Thanks.
Illabethe1 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Pyke/
I have a 73% win rate in Diamond IV as Pyke. What do I know? Oh. I also jungle him.
P.S. I even double checked Stoneplate + R in a practice game. Damage to 50% reduction with it active was a whopping 211. Damage to 0 Armor minions = 345. Damage to Champs at threshold did 211 damage and did not execute.
Contrary to wiki walks, Pyke's ult is NOT ignoring Stoneplate. And about your "Malph" video..... your "Malph" had a whopping 125 HP when you ulted him. Lmfao.
Hotarµ1 votes1.) Doesn't change the fact that mobis are more popular, and generally received as better than
2.) Hi. Here's a video of you being wrong about the R threshold. I pop Stoneplate, damage increases, ult range increases, dead. It doesn't matter what gets reduced because there is nothing to be reduced.
(Malphite is below ult range, rises back up, I pop Stoneplate, Malphite goes back into ult range.)
The way execute ults work is: Ult is detected, if the trigger (being below a certain threshold of HP) goes off, the true damage occurs. Because it's true damage and because true damage can't be reduced like physical damage can, Pyke benefits from
Hotarµ1 votesEven with video evidence, you can't accept the fact that you're wrong. It's pretty sad. Thanks for the conversation.
Illabethe1 votesYours is the only good reply so far, so kudos.
Although I would add something.
Yes. Pyke doesn't have damage.
BUT..... he can if played right. I take Phase Rush/Sorcery/Inspiration, because of the mobility and the Transcendence Rune. I can get to about 313 Armor 112 Mag resist while also having some 439 AD on these runes. Very satisfying at shredding adcs or playing chicken with a fed Garen.
SOYKOS1 votesIn teamfights try to avoid engaging. All you have to do is sit back until an enemy is in execute range and then go snatch that kill. (NOTE: STAY IN THE BACK DONT USE YOUR E TO GO FOR THE EXECUTE OTHERWISE YOU WILL DIE A PATHETIC DEATH IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR TEAM :)) While in lane hook someone really close to you to fling them like a Singed E and E backwards to gurantee a stun. After that I usually run away. It gurantees my adc some poke hits aswell. I prefer to play pyke like a support but I build lethality items and rush aggressive rune pages.
In the botlane you will struggle against 
(The combo I noted earlier should be a good solution)
Adcs that pair well with you are usually (they are both really good at getting some damage in and running away using the combo above)
After his adjustment to lethality I rush 
to 
(and boots depending on the game ofc) and then . A lot of people find that really bad and prefer to go tanky items but I use those mostly because I have fun with executing above 40% hp, have a long stun duration, and have used them since his initial release.
As for the runepage I go
Electrocute
Sudden Impact
Eyeball Collection
Ultimate Hunter
Pressence Of Mind (or my favourite: Nimbus Cloak)
Coup De Grace ( and Transcendance)
After that get the CDR thingy at the bottom if you picked precision secondary or the adaptive force if you got sorcery.
Then head for adaptive force again and finish off with some extra HP.
This pathing is completely underused but I find it surprisingly OP if you are used to using combos and hitting your R properly. Other opinions are welcome but there is no need to hate on someone else's Builds Etc.
I hope I helped and Good Luck in your journey!
