Can we have a permanent pve mode?

Ao Dracona·Sep 16, 2018·85 votes·18,301 views

Srsly riot u guys are capable of making better game modes than summoner’s rift the odyssey event is just amazing it’s almost everything ppl ever wanted A pve mode that’s almost harder than pvp An augment system for keeping the game more interesting And a full working boss fight?

Like wth why can’t we have a permanent version where we can play all the champions? Why can’t we have a survival wave mode?

Also permanent pve is such a good addition because 1 U can basically play any champion u want without having to learn them There’s a less chance of toxicity And it’s a fucking good break from the competitiveness of pvp Honestly I hope one day we get a permanent pve mode with an augment system or all of the champions available because I have had more fun in pve than pvp

42 Comments

ModWuksSep 16, 201834 votes

Technically Co-Op vs. AI is a permanent PvE mode, but I understand what you're really trying to say

Slythrin UmbreonSep 16, 201810 votes

Also, it has a few problems. At some point, the bots learned how to afk and int.

AnidanSep 16, 20188 votes

I had a Taric bot stand in front of his own top inner tower and just sit there while I smacked him as Irelia. That dude wanted it to be over. Betting he would have typed "ff" in all chat if the programming was there for it.

To add on for why I think he wanted to end: After the tower was destroyed he stood at that exact same spot and let me beat him to death without so much as an AA in return yet again. I felt bad. Not bad enough to not beat the crap out of him, but bad.

At least with Skarner dragging me into storms I'm thinking "that was clever" and countless profanities, but at least I'm not thinking "Christ, that guy is just having a terrible, awful, very bad game."

LeetriSep 17, 20182 votes

Taric Bot is just badly programmed. If he has no ally in W range he'll stand there until an ally shows up so he can cast a spell.

DeathBurstSep 17, 20181 votes

Honestly, Co-op vs AI already gives us all OP asks for in the 3rd paragraph.

Play any champ without learning them? Check
Less toxicity? Check
Good break from competitiveness? Check

And yes, I do play Co-op vs AI regularly, for exactly the same reasons myself (and yes, it's sad that the bots are so bugged), I'm not just talking pure theory without actually using the mode.

So yeah, OK, Odyssey is fun and fresh, and I wouldn't say no to more of it for more champs, but all the "non-mechanic-specific" reasons, if you get what I mean, Co-op vs AI totally delivers, even if it doesn't have a boss fight or an endless sea of monsters to kill.

ChalzeSep 16, 201815 votes

I dream of a Diablo-like PvE mode.

Never gonna happen, but I can dream

SluicewaySep 16, 20182 votes

It would not even need procedural map generation, and it would be fun to see what a champ's abilities could do in a dungeon filled with enemies and traps, and how they would otherwise interact with the environment.

HeimerLmaoSep 17, 20181 votes

I would kill for a roguelike in the League universe. Doubt it is going to happen though.

WoΘxerSep 17, 20181 votes

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I dream of a Diablo-like PvE mode.

Never gonna happen, but I can dream

Well this pve mode already remind Diablo III somehow.

Meteoric BurstSep 17, 20181 votes

something similar to Warcraft 3's campaign would be awesome too (minus the RTS aspect though), that pretty much would be perfect to tell the story of LoLs characters in their perspective.

Mama SorakaSep 16, 20187 votes

I had a ton of fun with the PvE modes in MasterXMaster before it shut down in January this year and I'd be 100% for more permanent PvE content in League.

MorgManBasherSep 16, 20181 votes

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I had a ton of fun with the PvE modes in MasterXMaster before it shut down in January this year and I'd be 100% for more permanent PvE content in League.

yessss, I miss that game so freaking much and want League to adopt their perma PvE and lobby system. I miss sitting around in lobby talking to people with my favorite master character.

AlienPrimateSep 16, 20185 votes

Well since you want it for every champion, I will go ahead and make the augments for my main Taric. I won't name them though.

Passive - Gain 25 mana per auto attack, +10% heal and shield power, 50% ult cdr, Cosmic Radiance has no delay

Taric does 3% more damage to a target every time he hits them with Bravado, cumulatively stacking.
Bravado can break the attack speed cap
Starlight's Touch can overlap with 75% reduced effect.
Starlight's Touch also does magic damage to enemies.
Gain two Starlight's Touch stacks per Bravado empowered attack instead of one.
Bastion can link to all allies as well as target enemies reducing their resistances instead of buffing them and doing magic damage instead of shielding based on Taric's maximum life. Enemies targeted in this way are also linked.
Bastion link range is infinite.
Bastion also gives 10 / 12.5 / 15 / 17.5 / 20% of Taric's magic resistance.
Each Dazzle cast does damage independently instead of just providing wider coverage.
Dazzle range is tripled and Taric can dash to stunned enemies when auto attacking them.
Taric is ghosted and immune to crowd control while channeling Dazzle.
Cosmic Radiance reflects all damage inflicted as well as preventing it.
Cosmic Radiance instead provides a buff for 10 seconds that makes it activate upon taking damage.
Taric permanently has Bravado.
Each spell cast increases Taric's AD, AP, Armor, and Magic Resistance by 5% for 5 seconds stacking infinitely.

DevaliahSep 16, 20184 votes

I agree with this completely, the biggest reason being tilt. I mean when you go on a leasing streak, you really don't feel like playing SR against bots. Alternatively you have blitz, aram, TT when you need a break, but its all just more PVP. Then we have bots, just the same mode with a weaker opponent. it gets boring (especially since the 5th bot no longer plays and sits at the fountain).

I'd be happier with an alternative mode that isn't pvp. It doesn't need to be super elaborate, just different. Odyssey is different enough from the main game, but not elaborate enough it would replace it. same with the older star guardians event. They could even add a random doom bot as a boss so they wouldn't need to program something new from scratch.

SirsirSep 16, 20183 votes

PvE modes get stale after awhile, and there are plenty PvE games out there as is.

ParoeSep 16, 20183 votes

@thread

Honestly what youre asking for is riots next game, a multiplayer ARPG in the diablo vein in which you travel runeterra in the service of a faction of choice (Which also determines your class options).

MorgManBasherSep 16, 20182 votes

Yes please. Be more like Master x Master, I fucking miss this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjNqPcAyn9c

SaibboSep 16, 20182 votes

A pve mode that’s almost harder than pvp

not at all, how can you compare insane diff PVE to bad/inting teammates? Imo it shouldn't be permanent because it'd take away from the unique feeling it has, and the next event it'd be just the same boring thing just with quest and different theme.

The Yetii RiderSep 16, 20182 votes

We have it...it's called Bots.

Spacesuit SpiffSep 16, 20182 votes

If this must be a game where the fun comes from completely stopping your opponent from playing a video game, pve is the best way to give us that.

ShleelpboySep 17, 20182 votes

Riot will never do this because first, they want money so skins= money secondly riot got no time because of LCS wannabe bullshit.

SaezioSep 16, 20181 votes

I Agree with this, make a permanent PVE mode that is designed like 100 times harder than Odyssey for the highest difficulty and give us survival too.

ShadowArchon MK2Sep 16, 20181 votes

Yeah, Riot should focus more on PvE features since management team somehow decided to let GC and CT touch pvp and the result is ...horrid.

ValyrianBladeSep 16, 20181 votes

I agree that it's a lot of fun, but people will bore of it once they beat the missions. Completed the 2 augments mission this morning, and honestly am feeling a lot less excited to play than I was yesterday.

I'm generally the type to stick to the same stuff WAY longer than average. And I'm still playing, just with less excitement (still need to do the Sona/ziggs mission though).

Anyways, the mode was great fun. Just hope if they make a permanent PvE it gets into something with more content. Players optimized this VERY quickly.

LTMSonLOLSep 17, 20181 votes

I completly agree with that. We (players) mastered the "Perks" mechanics of this event really quick (and some of them were disgustingly op)

PS: Little tip for the ziggs/zona quest, get 3 ziggs and 2 zona, and go on-hit ziggs. You'll melt kayn so fast.

ValyrianBladeSep 17, 20181 votes

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I completly agree with that. We (players) mastered the "Perks" mechanics of this event really quick (and some of them were disgustingly op)

PS: Little tip for the ziggs/zona quest, get 3 ziggs and 2 zona, and go on-hit ziggs. You'll melt kayn so fast.

We had that team comp, but I was one of the Sona, and at least 2 of the 3 ziggs went with healing augments :/

I did the second most damage (after the ziggs I queued with), as a Sona with loads of healing and cc (although tbf, I used my ultimate about every 5-10 seconds while I had Mana).

SõnaSep 16, 20181 votes

Unfortunately they won't do so, In balance/gameplay perspective, they will have lots of burden/pressure on balancing this new maps, maintenances and skill adjustments. Not only that, they have to open up new servers which can cost their "indie company" to bankruptcy..

So only hopes..

Remus WinsSep 17, 20181 votes

Yes!

BlåsigtSep 17, 20181 votes

Honestly, I have had so much fun with this event, that I would not mind if they implemented some long-term pve mode. I think, however, it might have to be premium, a non-cosmetic first, if we want it to be really good. I would also be okay with more skin events, this was awesome.

SammyDayspringSep 17, 20181 votes

Odyssey and Star Guardian were really boring to me. Maybe I'm in the minority, but these champions really aren't suited to the constant waves of enemies that these modes have. Plus, they can only make them for a few champions, which makes it even more repetitive and boring. If Riot wants to branch out and make other types of games, I don't think they should try to do it with League.

Slim GragasSep 17, 20181 votes

No, until Riot ACTUALLY knows how to make a PvE mode then there shouldn't be. As i've said before, all they do for these gamemodes are re-texture existing champions, re-size them, and give them random abilities like Braum's wall. They then slap them onto the gamemode and spam them all over the map, with higher difficulties simply meaning theres more of them and they deal more damage. I don't like Odyssey at all, i for some reason liked the Star Guardian gamemode a lot more despite these being braindead. It was probably due to the catchy music though. They haven't put any effort into making actual new PvE monsters for a gamemode, not counting jungle monsters.

Pika FoxSep 17, 20181 votes

Its almost as if its made to be.... TEMPORARY, and a PERMANENT one would get more effort.

Slim GragasSep 17, 20181 votes

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Its almost as if its made to be.... TEMPORARY, and a PERMANENT one would get more effort.

You clearly don't know Riot, they will never make a permanent PvE gamemode because it will take too many players away from Summoners Rift. They've said a while ago that if they keep gamemodes like this then more and more people are taken away from the main game which could result in a variety of bad affects like longer queue times. Everything has to do with money just like most things, if it doesn't make them more money they wont do it. These events get them A LOT of money because they bundle loot and loot exclusives with these orbs for example and release new skins. If there was a gamemode that was really THAT good, then it would take way too much people away from the main game and trust me as you rank up queue times get longer on their own, and it'd be even worse with that.

Related to this, Riot literally said that URF would make people stop playing League after it was over and they guess it's probably because it was more fun than Summoner's Rift. Less players is less money. https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/12/ask-riot-urf/

ZaFishboneSep 17, 20181 votes

Hmm, I remember that Gunz the Duel, a primary PvP game, had a permanent PvE mode, and it was a good way to destress and unwind a bit if you were feeling frustrated.

Inkling CommandoSep 17, 20181 votes

well seeing as people loved blitz and it was not permanent i doubt this PVE match type will be permanent either

Necro Warrior87Sep 17, 20181 votes

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well seeing as people loved blitz and it was not permanent i doubt this PVE match type will be permanent either

Um there readding Blitz once they finish up the map some more, that was the only reason its been removed.

Meteoric BurstSep 17, 20181 votes

we need story mode bro

could also be a cool way to unlock specific champion skins, like unmasked/student zed when he was still training under shen's father

ForFoxSakesSep 17, 20181 votes

This is why we need custom games with an editor like WC3 and SC2 where most of the games have a huge playerbase that dont do standard ranked. Lots of fun stuff that come out of those

SafaSep 17, 20181 votes

First of all I am not even going to try and read what everyone says because its gonna be a hassle XD (sorry if it sounds rude just can't find the energy to read a huge wall of info :P)

TL:DR It won't work (read below if you want my reasoning not that it really matters im just some random dude on the internet spewing crap )

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Don't get me wrong on this one while it does sound fun and it would be refreshing it wouldn't work for more than a month maybe 2/3 at best . League of Legends at its core is a Player VS Player game and league is a game that changes every 2 weeks or so (be it something small or something big you still have to adapt) . To make a PvE mode that can stay permanently on you'd have to :

Make it so that the AI's adapt to builds and situations because if it follows a certain pattern that changes just slightly here and there it will be easy to make a strategy against it like with Kayn on Oddysey when he's in assasin form and charges up with Ora you can basicly live through it by having good timing with Yasuo's windwall .
You'd have to devote a quite a team to keep the mode up and running . New champs come out and some get reworked so if that PvE mode is anything like Odyssey then you'd need someone to think of good augments for the champion and a way to balance them so that something like 5 yasuo's isn't the best strategy in PvP all kinds of strategies can come up . For example you would see the enemy Hecarim going full movespeed you'd build a BoRK , Randuins , Rylai's or a Frozen Mallet to slow him down to remove a huge chunk of his damage right ? While on full tank Heca you'd build Armor Pen . That's the thing that makes PvP a mode that has infinite replayability (damn son im using big boy words someone give me a cigar O_O)
Its got to have some rewards ya know making it worth grinding . XP and BE just won't cut it . If its infinite waves then it means you could be there for over an hour or longer . Heck I remember watching a video that showcased how the game breaks after a certain hour has passed which means they'd have to upgrade their servers/engine (not sure which one) if they plan to really make it infinite because ya know there will be that 1 korean next gen Faker that will get to the time limit and just lose it when he finds out theres a wall thats stopping him .

Aight this is all I can think of out of the top of my head . Now imagine this Riot makes that gamemode and it has infinite waves and every champ has 15 augments and people are liking it . Is that gamemode really a part of League of Legends ? To me it would be better to just make it a sequel like League of Legends 2 or something of that sort because then the game itself would a gongshow (I think the community will be divided between PvP and PvE players O_o . Also I can't even begin to think how they will market the game ) .

space newtSep 18, 20181 votes

What I really want is the whole of Runeterra to explore. Minions and creatures will be along the way, and of course places to raid a boss. If I go to Zaun they can have the Project PVE course there. Of course I can still queue a game while I fight (level up) in the woods. They could even have every champ in the game in there, and you have to fight them, in order to get them.

But that will never happen.

I miss MMOs....

space newtSep 19, 20181 votes

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What I really want is the whole of Runeterra to explore. Minions and creatures will be along the way, and of course places to raid a boss. If I go to Zaun they can have the Project PVE course there. Of course I can still queue a game while I fight (level up) in the woods. They could even have every champ in the game in there, and you have to fight them, in order to get them.

But that will never happen.

I miss MMOs....

I guess no one wants to add to that. [sg-ahri-1]