Preemptive changes are not a very good thing (Ahri, Fizz, Akali)

gubigubi·Feb 4, 2015·5 votes·786 views

Clearly the preemptive changes Riots Balance team put down for Ahri, FIzz, and akali were all to over board on every front. It would probably be a better idea to Remove DFG wait 1-2 weeks see it didn't have an impact on the game, Or see that it did. THEN change who was effected by it. Because currerntly what I see that has happened is is to strong, is still as strong as she was before, are far to weak. And the champions you didn't touch weren't really effected. Can you guys just take a more reserved approach to this kind of stuff? Just remove the item and THEN lets see what happens. To many variables makes figuring out whats really going on really hard.

On a side note with all this music related stuff going on Id thought Id mention the song death fire grasp makes no sense anymore. Still a good song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be1waE9myCU

11 Comments

TT31Feb 4, 20153 votes

Fizz really needed this, honestly. and I'm sure Akali can still beat face. I Haven't tried Ahri yet. I'm sure people just gotta re-figure out how to deal with Ahri.

gubigubiFeb 4, 20153 votes

I played against a fizz yesterday as Ashe support. He was having a hard time bursting me down with 0 tank items. If his shark doesn't land he is pretty weak at the moment.

Ahri is very strange atm. She doesn't feel very strong but its because she has so much power in her Q to escape with.

And I want to again say these changes are fine on there own but they did it compounded with removing an item that most of these champions I listed use. I would think it would be a better idea to lay changes like this down in stages so they can see where something got to strong or to weak.

DreadlocksFeb 4, 20152 votes

I'm all for Katarina nerfs, I'm not sure how I feel about ahri right now.. Shes strong... but idk if shes OP.

Mirage NightFeb 4, 20151 votes

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I'm all for Katarina nerfs, I'm not sure how I feel about ahri right now.. Shes strong... but idk if shes OP.

Agree with the Ahri changes. She's strng, but definitely not that op. She is far from being an assassin now. She is a very good Kite Mage, which is a niche that i feel lacks a significant champion pool.

DreadlocksFeb 4, 20151 votes

I agree, I really like building her like a sustained mage rather than an assassin. Her passive heal kind of compliments this place style. I recently started buliding her tanky AP, RoA, and Ryilas are in my common builds for her. Not saying i dont get void or deathcap just to be clear lol

gubigubiFeb 4, 20152 votes

Katarina still needs some nerfs. Ahri currently has preseason Warwick win rate.

TalamareFeb 4, 20151 votes

I think the pre-emptive changes were a good idea

however they were not great changes overall

Knight SoIaire Feb 4, 20151 votes

your contradict yourself

the main flaw or preemptive changes is that they are usualy bad overall since riot cant predict the outcome at all

its lke saying that you like apples but you would like them to taste like grapes apples are apples grapes are grapes

Mirage NightFeb 4, 20151 votes

I am still trying to find a full CDR build with Ahri. There are not many 10% CDR items, let alone once I think are good on her. Right I pretty much go both +20 CDR items.

ProfDrDeathFeb 4, 20151 votes

Akali as a champion is just such a bull**** concept that she basically got the Poppy/Olaf/Yorick treatment - intentionally made weak till she can be reworked to be more healthy for the game.

Fizz needed those changes, too. Pre-nerf Fizz didn't even need his ultimate to assassinate somebody and had most of his damage tied to point&click burst with the Lichbane-proccing Q. So, while the numbers might be a little off now, the general direction is a good thing.