Graves' passive is needlessly easy to drop

Prometheus856·11/11/2014, 10:05:54 PM·3 votes·1,175 views

I mean absurdly easy. It should have a timer and resets like draven's axes, so you can keep it up between waves, instead you risk dropping it in between last hits.

It's also not really very interactive. It's from a time where passives were passive, and should be based on damage dealt/taken by source and abilities used, rather than by time spent in combat.

Proposed Change: Graves' passive takes 6 seconds to drop, instead of 3 (draven's axes take 8, as you get a refresh when it's thrown and then when you catch it 2 seconds later, plus Q resets), and stacks are given when he deals or takes damage. It can be refreshed (not increased) by using abilities. No numbers changes needed. I like the 30 late/10 early. Feels significant and you notice it during trades, it just needs to last longer.

6 Comments

KingDerrickHenry11/12/2014, 1:00:03 AM3 votes

pro tip, cancel autos on purpose, keep stacks.

PatMcGroyn11/12/2014, 12:07:43 AM2 votes

I think it would be better if Graves' True Grit stacks fell off 1 at a time, similar to how Jinx' Minigun atk spd stacks fall off 1 at a time. That way, it still gives you more incentive to stay in the fray, but it doesn't drop off precipitously if he's getting zoned away from attacking.

4nth0l0gy11/11/2014, 10:27:06 PM1 votes

I like the increase. Without it, there's no incentive to stay in a fight longer; removing it would take away from his flavor, that he's calm and collected under pressure.

The passive is a little easy to drop, but it's already pretty strong (nobody should duel a Graves while he is autoing a wave right now); I don't think it needs any help. He's supposed to be a bit of a gambler, you have to be quick with him to get the most out of him.

CaRTeLKiLLa11/11/2014, 10:30:26 PM1 votes

I think its fine as it is, maybe if they buffed it to 4 seconds it would be cool. As it stands Graves is probably the best pusher out of all the ADCs so constantly autoing creeps while lifestealing back the damage taken from that annoying Caitlyn's Headshot kind of fits with his playstyle. Personally I think if Riot gives him one more buff it should be to put his base attack speed back to where it used to be, so you dont have those awkward moments in early game where you try to auto to last hit a minion or keep your passive up and Graves just kind of half-shoots his shotgun without anything coming out of it.

Hayaishi11/12/2014, 12:10:12 AM1 votes

That is the weakness, he would be hilariously overpowered if he could keep that thing up forever.

And Graves does NOT need buffs, my god stop it.

Bears Dont Care11/12/2014, 12:12:23 AM1 votes

Graves has a manly beard, he deserves to be overpowered. Unlike that wuss Lee sin who looks like an effeminate girl!