The this dude is inting effect.

G0blinSlay3r·Nov 29, 2019·32 votes·13,461 views

Sometimes no matter how hard you try. a player will get baited or smashed in game.

their score is usually pretty bad. Sometimes. it's intentional.

most of the time. it's because that guy might as well have stayed in base. truthfully once you start to get killed in micro seconds your survival drops drastically.

Some players sadly are not inting. they are getting crushed and are not sure them self what to do VS a guys that can kill you that fast.

Even i have moments where i question everything i like to play when some guys are literally playing in the arena of the twilight zone. way other level of gamer VS noobs.

it happens. it's league. No one is truly immune to death. at some point even the best meets their match. Few matches later the tables will turn. mmr is a funny thing effected by what can only be described as arcane sorcery. and can be influenced by what gets put into the game from you. your input and actions.

The effect of players thinking you int.. is that they are on the other side of the map. top or mid for example. and had no idea what monstrosity you have been fighting.

blah blah blah.. you inted.. you fed him. Dude ... Dude... you did'nt even see wth happened. you were fighting your own fight.

and your gona act like you been spectating 15 mins but didn't see how it played down?

There is inting, then there is getting blind sided.

it happens to everyone at some point.

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Crescent DuskNov 29, 201917 votes

I don't have to accept that if you are losing to a nasus in lane, and I tell you to build bramble vest to give you more survival and nerf his self healing when I come gank for you, and you still continue to build phage while 2 levels behind.

I don't accept that I tell you to build QSS for a malzahar/warwick/mordekaiser, you don't, then feed them, then complain they are broken champions.

I don't accept when I tell you that after you've died to your enemy laner 1-2 times, you're better off safely farming up near turret and giving up CS for exp soaking if they freeze, and you continue trying to fight an opponent with an xp and gold lead and feeding them even more.

I don't accept that after I tell you to stop pushing without vision, and you die to 2 ganks already, and you continue to overextend without vision and feed the jungle even more.

I just don't think that's normal or acceptable. It's selfish play in a team game.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20194 votes

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I don't have to accept that if you are losing to a nasus in lane, and I tell you to build bramble vest to give you more survival and nerf his self healing when I come gank for you, and you still continue to build phage while 2 levels behind.

I don't accept that I tell you to build QSS for a malzahar/warwick/mordekaiser, you don't, then feed them, then complain they are broken champions.

I don't accept when I tell you that after you've died to your enemy laner 1-2 times, you're better off safely farming up near turret and giving up CS for exp soaking if they freeze, and you continue trying to fight an opponent with an xp and gold lead and feeding them even more.

I don't accept that after I tell you to stop pushing without vision, and you die to 2 ganks already, and you continue to overextend without vision and feed the jungle even more.

I just don't think that's normal or acceptable.

if it's in ranked at high elo i would agree. However you sound like you are very critical. no offence meant.

The truth is at some point you can make the same mistakes too.

Trolling is another thing sadly. and if your dealing with someone that wont listen or just cant listen. why get angry? pointless. If it's truly intentional use the report button. spewing hate is not a good path.

LightswornLanceNov 29, 20192 votes

It's a mistake to miss an ability and lose a 1v1. It's not a mistake to continue trying to 1v1 your lane opponent after that. That is inting. You know they are stronger and will win, but you fight anyway.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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It's a mistake to miss an ability and lose a 1v1. It's not a mistake to continue trying to 1v1 your lane opponent after that. That is inting. You know they are stronger and will win, but you fight anyway.

Yeah sadly if everyone is overextending and a team reaches no cohesion. it's was lost long ago. happens. damn frustrating too.

Crescent DuskNov 29, 20194 votes

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if it's in ranked at high elo i would agree. However you sound like you are very critical. no offence meant.

The truth is at some point you can make the same mistakes too.

Trolling is another thing sadly. and if your dealing with someone that wont listen or just cant listen. why get angry? pointless. If it's truly intentional use the report button. spewing hate is not a good path.

It doesn't matter if it's ranked.

This is a team PvP game. Your goal is the same regardless, to do your best to win. Part of that is teamplay and itemizing properly and picking the right champs.

If you are losing a match up, and someone gives you advice to mitigate your losses so your teammates are more able to carry you when you don't snowball your enemy out of carry territory, you listen.

If you don't, you are willfully ruining the game for 4 other people. Because they then have to deal with your fed lane. With your lack of rotations. They too pay the price of your selfishness.

It's rather simple, if you don't want to be a team player, go play a single player game.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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It doesn't matter if it's ranked.

This is a team PvP game. Your goal is the same regardless, to do your best to win. Part of that is teamplay and itemizing properly and picking the right champs.

If you are losing a match up, and someone gives you advice to mitigate your losses so your teammates are more able to carry you when you don't snowball your enemy out of carry territory, you listen.

If you don't, you are willfully ruining the game for 4 other people. Because they then have to deal with your fed lane. With your lack of rotations. They too pay the price of your selfishness.

It's rather simple, if you don't want to be a team player, go play a single player game.

So true man. and i have seen where it looks like a dude has no interest in even trying sometime people int to tilt their elo or mmr thinking. let it set me up VS noobs.

IllabetheNov 29, 20194 votes

I've been on voice calls with people who aren't trying. I have a silver friend who sometimes invites me to 5v5 Flex with some of his Silver/Bronze friends. 2 our of 3 of the friends he brings literally say nothing but self defeating crap the entire game and keep the mood down. And No. I don't mean like "Blaming people when they do something wrong" Self defeatism. They are literally in the mindset EVERYTHING THEY DO IS WRONG SO IT'S NOT WORTH PLAYING.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20192 votes

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I've been on voice calls with people who aren't trying. I have a silver friend who sometimes invites me to 5v5 Flex with some of his Silver/Bronze friends. 2 our of 3 of the friends he brings literally say nothing but self defeating crap the entire game and keep the mood down. And No. I don't mean like "Blaming people when they do something wrong" Self defeatism. They are literally in the mindset EVERYTHING THEY DO IS WRONG SO IT'S NOT WORTH PLAYING.

This is a very difficult situation. sadly i have only found one cure.

i unfriended a friend to save him from himself. he still plays games. just not with me. but he found a job, stopped annoying everyone, eventually grew up. sometimes it's literally a stage in life that is driving them. Whatever it is.. Tragic event or malevolent crutch, they need to deal with it. depression is infectious and toxic in a certain light.

at times it's best to leave them to just figure everything out for them self. because that is the only voice loud enough to hear properly.

The point you need to bring thru is he/she "You need to get this negative down tone out of the game and were thinking of not playing with you" Only way.

you need to tell them dude no man.. don't be like that.. And lay it out. make him aware of what's happening.

Try show them the radiative power positivism can bring. You need to show them them "path you walk is dark"

Don't start this unless you are sure you need to talk to him his attitude.
lay it out for them as kindly as possible.
be just and fair. if he is a friend and you want to keep it that way.
make sure you explain your dislikes.
give up, lay it out as aggressively as you can.
be a douche and unfriend him.. make sure to state why.

sadly that last one of if all hope is lost and the message is not getting thru. sometimes you need to hurt your friends to show your love.

If they do not want to change it's best of not hanging with a downer. They will drag everyone into a pit.

and some people use this as a blatant justification to be a jerk!

Ignore their negative statements.

Don't let 2 people like this feed off each others negative emotion. it's a nuclear bomb.

it took someone twice as bad as me to realize how bad i could be.

Demented GagNov 30, 20191 votes

You can add me, I'm usually pretty positive Shaco

SaezioNov 29, 20194 votes

Ranked vs normal matters a lot.

In ranked you are trying for the win because you are playing competitively.

In normals the goal is to have the most fun, as in any game

DiopsideˆNov 29, 20192 votes

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Ranked vs normal matters a lot.

In ranked you are trying for the win because you are playing competitively.

In normals the goal is to have the most fun, as in any game

Sadly neither in normals I have fun, people picking broken champs and trying to stomp you as hard as they can.

Whole this shit-fest is not fun, shoving more damage instead of reducing damage.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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Sadly neither in normals I have fun, people picking broken champs and trying to stomp you as hard as they can.

Whole this shit-fest is not fun, shoving more damage instead of reducing damage.

The best i can suggest i do the same. Choose a broken champ. and unleash your hate apon mortal beings. all 9 realms will hear their screams.

i feel u buddy. meta's can make gameplay hard for some and easy for others. Gets me often too.

Crescent DuskNov 29, 20191 votes

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Ranked vs normal matters a lot.

In ranked you are trying for the win because you are playing competitively.

In normals the goal is to have the most fun, as in any game

The game is competitive regardless because it is a PVP game. It's like pretending that you don't have to try not to strike out in a baseball game because you're not playing it in a tournament or that in soccer you don't have to care about kicking the ball out of the boundary because what matters is that you have fun even if it means the fun detracts from the others you are playing with.

Don't play team games if your fun is all you care about.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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The game is competitive regardless because it is a PVP game. It's like pretending that you don't have to try not to strike out in a baseball game because you're not playing it in a tournament or that in soccer you don't have to care about kicking the ball out of the boundary because what matters is that you have fun even if it means the fun detracts from the others you are playing with.

Don't play team games if your fun is all you care about.

This is where your shooting yourself. not everyone plays to compete. and not everyone will show the same dedication to the huge picture. Some of us are here to play a game.

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it's game to them. not their inner peace or persisting reason.

your mixing esport fanatics and gamers. bound to blow up. so ranked was created. but is not the solution as the average guy might see ranked as a video game

SaezioNov 29, 20193 votes

Nope, games are played to have fun. In a soccer match with your buddies you are gonna tryhard instead of doing tricks and humiliating your friends? In a basketball match with your friends you are going to shout at your buddy that just dunked because you were free to shoot for 3?

You sound like a nice person to play games with. LOL

Why not just play rank if you want to tryhard? xD I don't get it

Crescent DuskNov 29, 20191 votes

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Nope, games are played to have fun. In a soccer match with your buddies you are gonna tryhard instead of doing tricks and humiliating your friends? In a basketball match with your friends you are going to shout at your buddy that just dunked because you were free to shoot for 3?

You sound like a nice person to play games with. LOL

Why not just play rank if you want to tryhard? xD I don't get it

In a soccer match with friends I'm not going to pass the ball to opponents so they can score a goal on us. In a basketball match I'm not going to stop dribbling and run with the ball under my elbows or constantly throw it out of the court.

It's not tryharding, dumbass. It's basic consideration for the experience of other people playing the game.

SaezioNov 29, 20193 votes

If you are talking about inting. Cause that's what I get from your comparisons to other games. Which is intentionally helping the enemy (not following your orders doesn't qualify btw) it needs to be deliberate throwing of the match.

Then I agree with you it shouldn't happen even in normals.

But if you get a quadra and then dive the enemy fountain for the penta and you die, that's perfectly ok to do in normals. Playing for style points in normals is the encouraged playstyle imo. Playing strictly to win is for ranked.

P.S. it's not nice to call people dumbasses. Shows a bad upbringing.

DuskDaUmbreonNov 29, 201913 votes

Even Proplayers have shit games, and on bad days they can feed people who have no chance of Diamond in the next 3 years. And flaming them will never help. Either it'll tilt them, causing them to feed more, or they're trolling and your flaming is just encouraging them.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20194 votes

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Even Proplayers have shit games, and on bad days they can feed people who have no chance of Diamond in the next 3 years. And flaming them will never help. Either it'll tilt them, causing them to feed more, or they're trolling and your flaming is just encouraging them.

exactly man fuel on a fire.

Your best action to help someone like this. is + communication if accepted.

get behind the team lets stick together. don't wander. rely on your team. if were gona die. we dine in Valhalla.

IllabetheNov 29, 201911 votes

Most players cause their own deaths. Don't pretend that they don't.

Mid: Why do mids die early? Oh Right. They got aggressive, and pushed the opponent to their own turret, and became a level 2/level 3 gank for a jungler.

Bot: Why do bot lane adcs die early? USUALLY, it's because they were brash, poked someone while there was a substantial minion wave, and then got CC'd by some support they weren't fully protected from, resulting in minion aggro/fish in barrel situations.

Support: Why do supports die early? Usually, it's because they have extreme confidence in their ability to poke and secure kills for their adc. Unfortunately, communication isn't always there, the adc often ignores the signal, and keeps farming, and the support, while almost 1v2ing the other team, dies because the adc was thinking, "They're stupid. I'm not going in on that." In a defensive lane, where you are champion countered, support usually dies because they don't get appreciated by a jungler.

Jungle: Why do Junglers die early? a) Same reason supports do: Bad communication or receiving of information by laners. b) They overextend without vision, and are poor predictors of other jungler actions, and their own capacities to finish a fight.

Top: Top is more aligned with what OP stated than any other role. It does have bipolar matchups, and everyone really wants to participate in the lane, even when not doing so is what wins it.

(My skill level as a support is heavily mis-aligned with Silver games. The adcs often don't realize that on Morgana or Nami.... I'm there to control a fight, have extreme levels of macro cancelling, and will ALWAYS secure them kills if they work with me. But..... 90% don't. They just keep farming, and either let me die or get close to it, while the opposing team gets to recover all the damage from my poke. It's startling how unreactive Silver/Gold adcs are to landing 2+ second roots or stuns and having a 35% slow applied to their autos. They're just like; "Oh hey. She/He can land skill shots. Let's hope they keep it up." A higher elo adc would easily turn that 2 second root into a kill. So, early game, I sometimes do look like an inter. And then we win.... because I realize my team can't be trusted and start staying back, or build much tankier, and CC disable 80-120 times a game)

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20195 votes

This is where i love support plays. i'm glad to say a good adc can devastate a team. but the combined work of a support and a adc in unison this this where i hear the air fill with music.

And when the rival team is none the stupider. makes for why bot lane is unique area of crazy as it's prone of explosive failures as much as explosive plays.

i have seen a 0/5/1 adc get 1 gank. and the 6/2/7 adc fumbles horridly from there. and it goes back and forth.

People have emptied out entire magazines only to hit air. in a blink this game can turn on anyone.

Play with honor. Respect with honor. Die with honor. Enjoy the game at your own cost not the cost of others.

I have played top. it is a wasteland of carnage that forces loners to dig deep and try shake hands.

and mid is like meeting a crossroads demon.

you think your alone but you feel eyes everywhere.

BBKongNov 29, 201910 votes

Yeah, it's true. Sadly calling people just having a bad game "inters" is how a lot of people get their anger out, which only makes it worse and makes the other people feel even worse than they already do for having a bad game. Kinda sad, but I don't think it'll stop.

HerbertyXsSnNov 29, 20195 votes

Accidentally dying is fine. Not listening to pings, not learning wave management, refusing to learn vision control, and not wanting to itemize right isn't.

If you aren't listening to my pings to top it off and continue to die, the death is 100% your fault. It isn't my fault you're fucking stupid and continue to give away kills.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20192 votes

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Accidentally dying is fine. Not listening to pings, not learning wave management, refusing to learn vision control, and not wanting to itemize right isn't.

If you aren't listening to my pings to top it off and continue to die, the death is 100% your fault. It isn't my fault you're fucking stupid and continue to give away kills.

Then why enrage yourself. you are not to blame. why be the voice to a point to when logs are reviewed. Keep your side clean. and remember rage does not work. it fuels chaos.

HerbertyXsSnNov 29, 20192 votes

I am not enraging, but pointing out that the people who constantly die because they won't listen to the rest of the team are only to blame themselves.

It's a pity you can't state facts here without offending somebody.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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I am not enraging, but pointing out that the people who constantly die because they won't listen to the rest of the team are only to blame themselves.

It's a pity you can't state facts here without offending somebody.

my apologies. not offended. truly some players just cant be reasoned with.

Jennifer17Nov 29, 20194 votes

well in this case you can blame riot and pro streamers.

lets just take a team i really like for example. go to the g2 youtube channel and watch their mic check of their worlds games. in every game they said "this guy is inting" at least once. pros use this term more as a joke but many childrens who follow them think they are serious.

on the other hand... riot scratching their ass isnt helping either. "but manual review so many reports bla bla" yes i know. im not saying its easy. all im saying is doing like nothing wont help.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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well in this case you can blame riot and pro streamers.

lets just take a team i really like for example. go to the g2 youtube channel and watch their mic check of their worlds games. in every game they said "this guy is inting" at least once. pros use this term more as a joke but many childrens who follow them think they are serious.

on the other hand... riot scratching their ass isnt helping either. "but manual review so many reports bla bla" yes i know. im not saying its easy. all im saying is doing like nothing wont help.

Yeah the problem is generalizing the word int-ing forgetting that we never created a word to describe people who got blindsided. And if so how do you even make that stick?

The very concept to getting people who are tilted to accept is to give them something to purge on.. people sadly need to purge. were animals.

and purging at your team seem like the 1st most likely option as it gets attention. people like attention.

People like seeing people in conflict.

Blaming people for inting is a escape goat too.

Seriously there are way better mystery flicks on tv.

How can i take streamers seriously? seriously when i have seen how they use scenario's to look cool. banning guys. throwing fits. sadly they have a audience and people are easy to imprint on. "emulation is a form of flattery"

i dont even want to talk about it further.

Harden StepbackNov 29, 20193 votes

Inting has lost all its meaning, it sucks because the true inters are now never punished because of this.

Darkstar AnnieNov 29, 20193 votes

Feeding/Snowballing are core components of this game. The game specifically allows for them to happen as they are inverse. I hate when people go 0/6 and immediately get called an intentional feeder when most of their deaths were in their own lane, when they are honestly trying, rather than being someone deliberately walking into the enemy over and over, or just running it down mid and dying to towers (most deaths will be from towers anyway, and not directly feeding an enemy, so there's that too). I also hate how people ignore assists when they call out scores. I've seen 0/6/12 being called an inter. when that's basically no difference than being 12/6/0.

IloveIsa7Nov 29, 20193 votes

I got level 2 ganked top by a xin shao and rengar top while playing Kayle and literally had 0 lane ability that game 50cs in 20 minutes. I tried going into lane a few times and just got burst dmg to death or tower dived by rengar and xin shao to death and finished game 2/7. Team is like 15-40 and says im inting.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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I got level 2 ganked top by a xin shao and rengar top while playing Kayle and literally had 0 lane ability that game 50cs in 20 minutes. I tried going into lane a few times and just got burst dmg to death or tower dived by rengar and xin shao to death and finished game 2/7. Team is like 15-40 and says im inting.

people think your KDA is your ability.

there are scenario's where you can turn a whole match upside down just by showing up.

Crescent DuskNov 29, 20192 votes

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I got level 2 ganked top by a xin shao and rengar top while playing Kayle and literally had 0 lane ability that game 50cs in 20 minutes. I tried going into lane a few times and just got burst dmg to death or tower dived by rengar and xin shao to death and finished game 2/7. Team is like 15-40 and says im inting.

You are. If you are being camped, sit under turret and freeze. Had a Kayle/Morgana troll bot lane feed a Rengar/Yuumi 15 kills in one game because they kept walking near the bushes and not warding the bushes so they could stop being gibbed.

If the Xin Zhao and Rengar are on your lane all game long, it means 4 other people are not being pressured by 2 enemy players, so it's a 4v3 in your team's favor and they should have made gains.

The problem is then people like you are not happy to sit under turret; you actually give 7+ kills to the enemy so they too can go free roam all over the map.

You gave a lv2 kill knowing full well xin zhao is a renowned lv2 ganker and early game aggressive champ, and rengar is basically an early game aggro champ, and instead of playing safe you thought your little ranged slow and heal would save you at that level. Clearly it didn't.

IloveIsa7Dec 1, 20191 votes

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You are. If you are being camped, sit under turret and freeze. Had a Kayle/Morgana troll bot lane feed a Rengar/Yuumi 15 kills in one game because they kept walking near the bushes and not warding the bushes so they could stop being gibbed.

If the Xin Zhao and Rengar are on your lane all game long, it means 4 other people are not being pressured by 2 enemy players, so it's a 4v3 in your team's favor and they should have made gains.

The problem is then people like you are not happy to sit under turret; you actually give 7+ kills to the enemy so they too can go free roam all over the map.

You gave a lv2 kill knowing full well xin zhao is a renowned lv2 ganker and early game aggressive champ, and rengar is basically an early game aggro champ, and instead of playing safe you thought your little ranged slow and heal would save you at that level. Clearly it didn't.

Thank you for the advice. I actually got tower dived over and over after the first lvl 2 gank. I sat under tower but still died and that's why i cs'd bad and had 50 in 20 mins. First he froze lane at his turret and I just waited getting 0xp until it would get to to my turret . I didn't continue walking up to lane and dying, but once he had 3 levels higher than me and two items he was free to just tower dive and kill me in 2 secs or less. I got the two kills that way but he still killed me. It was just a really cancerous combo as a squishy champ with no early game as Kayle. I think there are some matchups you just can't win if the enemy laner is zoning you away with the threat of instakilling you

Worst Kench NANov 29, 20193 votes

People at my elo don't even call them deaths anymore. It's not K/D/A, it's K/I/A. The widespread usage of the word 'int' is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen out of the community.

Are they purposely griefing? Are they running it down mid? Then it's inting. Are they having a bad game? Are they getting camped and purposely made to die multiple times? They're not inting. It's, you know, the INTent that matters.

Garson211Nov 29, 20192 votes

O yea i played yesterday vs singed top.He start build bramble vest tabi ext full armor and i still win ,but i send to him "bro why you build armore when we have 4 ap and 1 ad (me) in team" Guess what hes do? He sell those items and buy rylai liandry.Holy... He lost game solo making their team play 4vs 5 + he sell item midgame making self even more behaind.If you said this is not griefing....and will agree with evry one on their team called him "stupid" coz this is not bad day. I rly love ppls hiding behaind "BAD DAY" while inting

LightswornLanceNov 29, 20191 votes

TBH picking Singed Nasus or Teemo is basically a troll pick. I don't think you ever want any of those champions on your team ever.

StephenizgodNov 29, 20192 votes

The thing is at a certain point, feeding becomes inting. Even if its not intentional, if you know what you are doing isn't working and continue to do it, you are now inting. Walking into the same bush and dying for the 5th time is inting, sure you don't do it to intentionally die but you know you are going to die again. So why are you doing it?

You can usually tell when someone is having a bad game because of how they play. If they don't alter their gameplay at all, they are feeding/inting. If they are trying to change their play and its still not working, they are having a bad game.

AnubisDeathtouchNov 30, 20191 votes

this is fundamentally untrue. Inting means intentional feeding, so what you just said is "feeding is intentional feeding even if it's not intentional". Playing poorly isn't inting. Getting outplayed isn't inting. Making a stupid mistake isn't inting. Making LOTS of stupid mistakes isn't inting. If you explain to a person what they're doing wrong and they scream "SHUTUP I DO WHAT I WANT" and continue to make the same stupid mistakes then yes, it's borderline inting, because now they're just refusing good advice to be obstinate. But other than that...

StephenizgodDec 1, 20192 votes

That is literally what I just said... if they know what they are doing is wrong, but refuse to change, they are now inting.

LightswornLanceNov 29, 20191 votes

Learn to play safe, after one or two deaths in lane, realize that you can't overextend or maybe even leave your tower depending on the circumstances. By inting they mean you consciously made the choice to overextend and be in a position to be killed.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20191 votes

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Learn to play safe, after one or two deaths in lane, realize that you can't overextend or maybe even leave your tower depending on the circumstances. By inting they mean you consciously made the choice to overextend and be in a position to be killed.

10/10.

how many matches i would have ended up throwing after 2 deaths. when your brain sees 0/2 on your score. Stop.

visualize how you just died. preposition your paths. and try extend less. Don't chase.

Veloz DestelloNov 29, 20191 votes

If you get solo killed twice and you keep building damage, you are inting and should be reported.

G0blinSlay3rNov 29, 20193 votes

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If you get solo killed twice and you keep building damage, you are inting and should be reported.

A restive item may help survival. But to make up for being behind in kills, stack, passives, you need to think upper hand.

if your only option is going tanky. so be it.

But truthfully lol is about objectives and damage. every drop of hp dropped is a drop in your favor.

EATARINov 29, 20192 votes

The issue is that building defence doesn't really work from behind. Damage stats will scale faster than defensive ones, and unless they are also building tanky, you're handicapping yourself by building in such a way that you will have very little mid-game impact. Honestly, building defensive can't be a reactive decision, it has to be proactive. You have to build the armour, hp, or mr before you die twice, or else it won't matter much.

Veloz DestelloDec 3, 20191 votes

Ofc it does matter, build defensive AND play defensive is the difference between go 0-2 and 0-6. You don't try to win someone when he is far ahead, you try to keep him.

nViperNov 30, 20191 votes

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If you get solo killed twice and you keep building damage, you are inting and should be reported.

You're only level 25. You don't understand enough about the game. Let's say I am a champion, who can come back, but I died twice solo. I build damage, does that mean I'm inting? No. There is still a chance you eventually outscale per said "champion" and win. Can Zed build tank? No. Can Yasuo/Talon/Katarina build tank? No. Can Veigar/Draven/Annie build tank? No. Just because you build damage doesn't declare int. In lower elos throws exist. Anytime a throw can happen. Also, your teammates might be ahead, ask to switch or for some help. Does me going 0/2 mean I lose? No. League is very 50/50 and is made so matchmaking puts you with bad teammates, or better enemies to ensure you don't just go on a winning spree and you get invested into the game. Don't just give up in league, any game is winnable no matter the circumstance. It just might not be your game to win, but you should still try because there is still a chance a comeback exists.

Veloz DestelloDec 3, 20191 votes

First of all, I'm not lvl 25, obviously this is not my main acc

Second, you are a silver player with negative winrate. Your understanding of the game wouldn't be so different than the lvl 25 one.

Third, you can build defensive to avoid keep giving kills to the enemy so you are not heavier. As you will understand, is better if the enemy goes 2-0 than 6-0. If you are a Yasuo getting stomped by an Irelia, don't go critical strike, build tabis and go for frozen mallet, so you stop give her kills and her carry potential is not that high, instead of go critical strike, get dived by her and cry because game is done. Is not difficult to understand. If you can't carry, try to not be heavy.

EATARINov 29, 20191 votes

It's rough sometimes. It's 10 times worse if you like to play off-meta. If I take Soraka top and rush sheen, I'm expected to be 6/0/4 by 15 minutes or else I'm feeding. There's just an expectation that if you aren't playing the meta, then you have to be a god. But if my score is 3/4/2, it's unacceptable because I'm playing in a unique way. That kind of expectation being placed on me also causes me to make awful plays at times. I'll die once at 3 minutes and TP in, trying to get my revenge kill to prove myself. Instead, I die, putting me about 700 gold behind while playing a less optimal strategy than my opposing laner. From there, it's usually downhill as my team begins to flame me for inting. And to be fair, it is my fault, but I just wish they could be more understanding in those situations.

Zed geniusNov 29, 20191 votes

I don't really believe that my bot lane who both died the 12th time in the first 13 minutes was really trying but ok, sure, let's give them the benefit of the doubt anyway