Dont bitch when ur bot lane died or loses tower because u refuse to gank their lanes, u can help by clearing wards for them, u can help by warding their lane, u can help by invading their red side jungle so we know where the jungler is or isnt, u can help by GANKING. u can do any one of these things to help their lanes.
its extremely annoying to have someone playing junglers who sit and farm in their jungle all game then bitch when lanes are losing
XinCrin5 votesIf your losing lane, I'm not gonna help you because you clearly show you don't know how to play the game. I would rather help the winning top lane who can carry the team.
Girard2 votesThat's not the correct way of thinking. I lose lane sometimes and I main ADC. Sometimes you get insanely bad match ups, your support is bad, or their jungler camps you. (not overextending, but constant dives by a Rammus, Pantheon, or Lee jungle.) If your laner needs help then try and help but obviously you can't win lane for them.
XinCrin3 votesIf your losing lane, will a kill really help that much? If a laner needs help, I'll help him by helping the rest of the team, which in turn will help him indirectly by adding pressure to another part of the map.
Girard2 votesShowing pressure to other lanes isn't going to help the Vayne that's getting dove constantly by the enemy jungler, getting free kills for their adc and themselves. Show your face to your bot lane and remove wards to apply pressure and they'll be hesitant to go in.
XinCrin5 votesWhy would I help the Vayne who won't carry me since she is feeding? Giving her a kill won't change anything. If she is loosing so hard that she is getting dove and killed over and over, it clearly shows she is useless. I can try and help her by diving top over and over and force the enemy jungler to top lane. What you can do as Vayne is you and your support play safe and try your best to stay alive.
SeaGodUrronuos3 votesThen its your fault bot lane for not being able to prevent it, if you are feeding so hard go three man mid lane or something useful and not sit there like a baboon, the jungle has more useful things to do like farm and gank top and bot when you obviously show that even if we did help you still couldn't win lane I would rather help the winning lane
Kirius Dark2 votesNo. If I was fed bottom and didnt have wards I wouldnt be that scared of the jungler since I can probably kill them so I'm not going to be a bitch just because wards were removed
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XinCrin3 votesI do play bot lane, no need to patronize me. I also play the jungle.
When I jungle, I look to do this: 1.) Help the laners who will carry 2.) Farm my jungle 3.) Counter jungle 4.) Take big objectives like dragon 5.) Make an enemy useless by camping and diving 6.) Ward enemy jungle and keep track of enemy jungler 7.) Gank over extended people 8.) Get gold
If you have two deaths already, I don't want to be in bot lane at all because it will be a waste of time if the enemy bot lane knows how to play. It wouldn't be close fights if they have an advantage that significant over you. Wasting time is one of the worst things a jungler can do. Risk vs reward.
Risk: 1.) I loose pressure by showing myself 2.) I get counter ganked and all of us die 3.) I loose my entire top side jungle for nothing. 4.) Waste time
Reward: 1.) Kills that won't help out laners too much especially if the enemy knows how to play and have wards in which case I won't get a kill anyways. 2.) Relieve pressure (?) Though if anything, it relieves the pressure of the other lanes on the enemy team.
Kilanost3 votesWell said. People don't realize exactly how much shit their jungler is actually doing while they sit there only worrying about farming.
Kirius Dark3 votesAnother risk is to get counter jungled and lose your camps and buff too when the other jungler sees you in a lane derping around. So many times I see a lane cry of assistance expecting me to sit in a bush near their lane to "camp them and help me" when it's the worst thing you could be doing
R0XTAR2 votesIf your losing lane, will a kill really help that much? If a laner needs help, I'll help him by helping the rest of the team, which in turn will help him indirectly by adding pressure to another part of the map.
umm...Have you played bot lane? O.o
Shutdown gold and their death timers make it WAY EASIER to gank for the future by opening up time for your "shut down" adc to farm and get their butt back in the game.
Now, having a best friend who mains jungle, you don't need to gank me when I'm getting completely murdered (0-6-2). Just if I only have two deaths, it would be nice to have someone to rely on, especially when in every bot lane fight, the winner only comes out with slivers of health left. If I could count on my jungler to finish the job, my bot lane would not complain.
Kirius Dark2 votesPeople shouldnt be ganking to get shutdown gold. They should be ganking to get people on a rampage
Shutdown gold is a consolation prize
Incarceration1 votesThat's incorrect.
You guys have a philosophy where you say you just camp a lane and make them useless. That isn't the optimal strategy. The optimal strategy is to gank a lane, finish a tower, push it in, and try to gank the losing lane to gain shut down gold, and get your laners back on their feet.
Kirius Dark3 votesThat's incorrect.
You guys have a philosophy where you say you just camp a lane and make them useless. That isn't the optimal strategy. The optimal strategy is to gank a lane, finish a tower, push it in, and try to gank the losing lane to gain shut down gold, and get your laners back on their feet.
WOW this guy. Optimal strategy is to gank losing lanes. Ooooooookkkk. Clearly no idea how this game works
Incarceration1 votesYeah let's just stay top lane so we can kill that 150 gold yasuo instead of going bot to get that 390 gold shutdown on Caitlyn, and get the bot towers, get dragon, head mid, get inhib, get baron, and win game.
No, let's just keep on running it down top till 17/2 cait comes. Seems good.
XinCrin1 votesYes, lets do keep killing that 150 gold Yasuo so we can just keep pushing and pushing. If the 17/2 cait comes top, our bot lane can push.
Incarceration1 votesWatch as that 17/2 cait becomes 19/2 with alot more gold to keep on killing us, then proceed to finish off mid, and get baron just so we can get the outer bot turret. Logical.
There's a thing called rotations.
XinCrin1 votesYour bronze 3, I don't think you understand how this game works. Also, how do you know she can kill us?
Rotations are good, but why rotate if diving top is working? And if they send people top, then our bot lane or someone can push out the other lanes.
Incarceration1 votesShe's the adc. She will get peel from the support, mid, jungle, and top if needed. Then they can easily go get Baron since you (the jungler) are dead, and rotate mid to fk over your mid laner. Watch as you lose teamfights as well.
SeaGodUrronuos2 votesAand this is why I up vote is for comments like this where they actually get what's going on
XinCrin3 votesRight? Wtf would anyone help the feeder? The feeder is bad. You don't help the bad players. You help the good players carry the team.
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesBut you know even if they feed so hard and the enemy adc is 18 and you are 6 you should still of me die so I can blame you instead of me sucking!!#
ViiLLAiN2 votesfrom everything you are saying i can tell you dont know how this game works.
Bot lane is a lane u should be focusing on more then other lanes. this is the lane that will help u secure dragons a huge objective in this meta.
you know how easy it is to gank bot? u help that lane u take tower fast and u basically won the game.
ganking other lanes is fine but not when all ur doing is wasting time there while bot lane is getting ganked by their jungler and mid laner.
u say play safe idk if u ever played bot lane but theres only so much u can do before u have to give up ur turret.
and u know what happens when u give up turret they take dragon then go mid and snowball off picking up kills cuz 8 times out of 10 jungler and midl laner are not warding jungle entrances and they sit there waiting for one of u to walk by and extend their lead even further.
all of this starts by refusing to help ur bot lane
Moetaro3 votesNowadays you can get two kinds of junglers. One that understands the new meta, or one that doesnt. The first one will win you the game, the second one will make your game unwinable. The first one will gank bot nonstop, the second one will jungle "the old style".
You are wasting your time though, they (the ones that didnt understand the new meta) will not understand what you are telling them, since they are too busy wondering why they were gold/plat/dia and now they are bronce/silver/gold.
ViiLLAiN1 votesNowadays you can get two kinds of junglers. One that understands the new meta, or one that doesnt. The first one will win you the game, the second one will make your game unwinable. The first one will gank bot nonstop, the second one will jungle "the old style".
You are wasting your time though, they (the ones that didnt understand the new meta) will not understand what you are telling them, since they are too busy wondering why they were gold/plat/dia and now they are bronce/silver/gold.
ur right
SeaGodUrronuos2 votesNo we understand fine you guys just don't understand thst just because we walk in lane doesn't mean that bot tower explodes and the dragon commits suicide, you realize there are jugglers that do better at ganking bot lane and those that suck ass at it These fucking people don't understand
Moetaro1 votesIt's not the jungler the one that has to make bot tower to explode and the dragon to commit suicide. It's the jungler AND the midlaner. The 4 men gank meta. (if top can use tp and it's 5 men, better)
You know what happens if the jungler doesnt gank bot? no 4 men gank. And oh, boy! 4 men gank will happen in bot sooner or later, so, if it's not your team the one making it, it will be the other team. And that's why you lose your games when the jungler decides not to gank bot because "they are losing". Who cares if they are winning or no? 4man them and rape their tower!
Kirius Dark3 votesSuch irony in this.
Sure bot lane is important, but I dont need it to take dragon.
How easy it is to gank bot? Its actually the hardest to gank because a 3v2 is harder to win than a 2v1, while supports should be giving extra insurance on vision to prevent ganks whereas solo laners have less control over that. I play jungle and support evenly. I know there's some give or take but 90% of the time just dont bank on getting a gank or relying on others to help you win your lane
If bot is getting ganked by the other jungler and/or mid, then the other lanes can hard shove. If bot prepared properly they shouldnt be easy picking auto deaths for free. Sure another allied body there helps a ton but mid can roam and top can TP, not just the jungler who can come help and they dont have to if the team gets a better advantage from not coming.
You just sound super salty from dying, thinking the game revolves around you as ADC
Kilanost4 votesEvery time you give up a kill to the enemy laner, we have to farm harder to survive ganking for you.
I'm not ganking for you if my chances of surviving aren't very high.
Additionally, we have other shit to do then clean up your mess. We will help you when we can. A jungler WANTS to gank especially with these ridiculous jungle changes. If you make that difficult for us, thats on you.
No suck it up, stop over extending, ward your own shit, and get off your high horse. The world doesn't revolve around ADCs.
SeaGodUrronuos3 votesYou realize that the jungle has nothing to do with you being an idiot bot lane right, if you go 0/10 as adc then its your fault not the jungle and there is a certain point when me when i jungle where its pointless to go bot lane when you fed then so hard you can't even 3v2 anymore take responsibility for you losing the game and sucking at bot lane, the jungle could just camp top or mid, you aren't the only lane that jungle needs to worry aboyt, so do us all a favor and go somewhere else if you think you are so important that the jungle should just camp you the entire time she. You lose lane in 5 minutes so just don't play adc if you are that bad
BeatzBoyFTW3 votesAbout 90% of the time, my bot lane dies because they over-extended without warding the river. So technically, they got asked to get killed.
Kirius Dark3 votesLaners need to understand that junglers SHOULD NOT be ganking for losing lanes. They gank winning lanes for them to carry harder and to get the jungler ahead as well. No point in ganking 2-3 times for a bot lane for them to still lose just because "you need to gank bot" stupid mentality.
Good bot laners will not die even if the enemy jungler comes to gank because they've warded properly and are prepared to back off or peel, thus wasting that junglers time and gets your team ahead. If you do that and I see the enemy bot team is ripe for ganking, then sure I'll come gank them all day. i'm not going to come gank a fed enemy ADC just for you to maybe get even while risking myself dying and feeding them further.
At one point in the game you and the opposing laners were even, and because you are the weaker players they got ahead. Ganking for you wont help the team then
Moetaro2 votesMost junglers are stuck in the previous season, when you could decide what to gank and when.
Well, guys, the last season is OVER. No more "I gank what I want", if you dont gank bot (and it doesnt matter if bot's loosing or winning or pushing or not) you lose. Period.
Surr20plz2 votesDont bitch when ur bot lane died or loses tower because u refuse to gank their lanes, u can help by clearing wards for them, u can help by warding their lane, u can help by invading their red side jungle so we know where the jungler is or isnt, u can help by GANKING. u can do any one of these things to help their lanes.
its extremely annoying to have someone playing junglers who sit and farm in their jungle all game then bitch when lanes are losing
How old are you?
I need to know.
And are you American?
The future of our country is in peril and I just want to know if you're part of the problem.
jinxedchef1 votesThis is how you get President Trump.
ViiLLAiN1 voteslol ok keep up with the mindset that the game doesnt revovle around the character who builds full dmg has a support dedicated to help them in lane so they can reach mid - late game with all their dmg and win every team fight
good logic.
the adc is the reason why people win games. they do the most dps take towers the fastest.
junglers know this thats why they shut down ur adc super fast
ever wonder why u lose every game the other adc is fed.
thinik about it
SeaGodUrronuos1 votesYour funny have you not seen a top lane tryndamere that splitpushes faster than both the adc and support, guess not but I guess you need to think about it Ggez
Kaioko1 votesThe polar extremes of each side are pretty hilarious. There's no one shoe fit all solution though when it comes to your jungler helping your bottom lane. You need to be cognizant of several things such as who your jungler is, who the enemy's jungler is, your bottom lane's composition, the enemy's bot lane composition, the top and mid lane summoner spells, mid lane roaming potential, your team and the enemy's play style, etc...
There are a few things that both sides can do better however in my opinion:
Bot Lane: Realize that right now your are at the bottom of the food chain for the meta. It's going to get better soon but ADCs are currently pretty weak. Keep in mind how you scale, how the enemy scales and who the enemy's jungler is and play accordingly.
Junglers: You are currently the top of the food chain (and yes nerfs will keep coming your way this season). The influence you have on the game is the highest currently then you've ever had before. PLAN FOR MID AND LATE GAME. This does not mean gank bottom lane no matter what but if you're a Lee jungler you better make sure that someone who scales is doing well or you are shooting yourself in the foot. Ganking the full tank Nautilus top is nice and all and will make him stronger but your return on time investment will be a lot lower than ganking the bottom lane Jinx or Vayne.
Colgate Gator1 votesYou bot lanes need to stop fucking feeding all over the laning phase, learn to farm instead of forcing trades.
Atte. Your top laner who's silently judging you every game.
jinxedchef1 votesYou shit posters need to be learning your grammar. If I could not put thought into words in a more coherent manner, I would give up League until I could pass 3rd grade English.
JafarThePanda1 votesganking bot lane in season 7
KAPPA
Elisheva1 votesYou not being good enough to win your lane isn't always the jungers fault. ADC'S feel too privileged because they are the only role in the game with a babysitter, and yet they have the nerve to demand you to also babysit them. The only time I can safely say it should be expected of you to gank bot is if they are getting camped, other than that, we are free to do as we please. You aren't the only lane, and nine times out of ten, you aren't the only lane that needs help. Get over yourself.