Why does Zac have such a low winrate at pro level but a good winrate in DQ?

SIayton··1 votes·2,072 views

On probuilds it's got Zac listed at 39% winrate. Meanwhile on Champion.gg for Plat+ games he's got like 52-53% winrate. So what gives?

http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Zac

My thoughts, Zac's stuff is super telegraphed and pretty slow / unwieldy. In pro play where precision matters and where player reaction speed is at it's highest, it's actually pretty easy to avoid almost all of Zac's stuff if you're alert. His Q is also pretty slow and really doesn't do anything, just feels like a proc to get a blob to get some health back honestly. He's pretty terrible at actually peeling and his damage is low unless he goes AP, so I feel like he doesn't make as good a use as some other good junglers could with his gold.

He's great in solo queue where people don't treat you like fiddlesticks and ward over walls but other than the surprise engages, Zac doesn't bring a whole lot to the table.

I'd love to see his Q reworked. What if he could charge it like his E to get a long range stretch punch poke? Maybe the range could scale with Zac's HP so when he's huge he's a blob sniper and when he's small, he'd have small range. Just an idea, I feel like the design kinda missed the mark for a cool ability with his stretchy punch.

Thoughts?

8 Comments

Blue Kaozi3 votes

The main think is wards most likely. Pro players always have just about everything warded and are very cautious around bushes. Plat+ dynamic q tends not to have as much vision.

Zero Skill Tank2 votes

This. Very high level players have much more vision and in general tend to know enemies approximate location better, so they won't be surprised by Zac jump that often.

Also Zac is targetable during his dash, meaning in many pro games he will get knocked down during it, further reducing his advantage.

CppL1 votes

Do you mean sites? (probuilds.com champion.gg) or pro players (lcs) vs Solo Q?

SIayton1 votes

Sites as in probuilds. Which I guess is LCS players in solo queue, so Zac at the highest tier of play's win rate vs upper/mid tier.

Big Juice1 votes

Zac is very gank heavy champ. Really good at them. The reason you dont see him in pro play is because, if they lane swap he pretty much becomes useless and there are other champs better then him in that situation. Good in soloq

Caítlyn1 votes

Malphites ult with more then double the range and only a 10s cd?

He literally doesnt need any other skills and thats already op as fck

SIayton3 votes

It's a lot slower and has windup though. Makes a big difference.

Caítlyn1 votes

Doesnt matter how "slow" it is when he can do it from 5 miles away where you cant see.

And the windup doesnt matter either because the range on the cone is retardedly huge.

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