I mean like... seriously wtf? That has to be the most lucrative 1 point ever spend... thats literally 1k true damage to towers, possible from level 1...
The Bearded Bard3 votesHonestly I'm okay with it. It really cements him as the go to tower destroying mage.
I think this might even open up a spot for Ziggs in bot lane on top of mid lane.
TNHA Baritone1 votesThank you for using the noggin'.
DrDiaga2 votesWhat's the problem.
At least he has a possible role now. With lux around he is never played and mediocre when played.
Critmaster Garen1 votesWhat's the problem.
At least he has a possible role now. With lux around he is never played and mediocre when played.
i remember when the roles were reversed.
when ziggs was strong, due to better mana costs and ap ratios than now he was hell to lane against. much worse than lux, as lux cant spam poke on a 3 second cooldown or block off the entire lane with 2 spells.
not to mention ziggs actually has a mobility tool if he needs it.
when it comes to poke and sieging, ziggs already has the better kit.
Surr20plz1 votesSeems legit right?
I'm glad all this crap is happening. Amateur hour is finally coming to light.
TNHA Baritone1 votesYou forgot that if you know how to move a cursor you can dodge EVER OTHER single Ziggs spell right?
Meanwhile ADCs chunk turrets anyways so why not give a mage a niche of shredding turrets (without Lich Bane)
Sylverblitz1 votesThe difference is that ADCs have to build damage and have items to kill turrets whereas Ziggs just walks up to one, throws a satchel at 25% health and it's gone instantly. That's a big difference.
TNHA Baritone1 votesThat will be his niche then....
He's a terrible artillery mage
Sylverblitz1 votesHis niche? He already has plenty. Stalling lane pushes, hard pushing lanes, area and ranged harass, huge range and high damage ult on a low cooldown, crits every 8 seconds or so from his passive and he could already shred towers with that passive and Lich Bane. I am not looking forward to seeing the bomb rat back.
TNHA Baritone1 votesWhy do you think no one plays him? His abilities are so easy to dodge its hilarious. Everyone with a gap close can escape his ult.
Sylverblitz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Karma Mechanix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=doHoyniE,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-22T09:49:29.704+0000)
Why do you think no one plays him? His abilities are so easy to dodge its hilarious. Everyone with a gap close can escape his ult.
Some do. The pros don't play him so he doesn't get seem as much as with a lot of champions.
The Bearded Bard1 votesLOW COOLDOWN? LOW COOLDOWN?
Sir, that cooldown is at 120 seconds AT ALL RANKS. Even with 45% CDR you're not getting that below a minute.
Sylverblitz1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=doHoyniE,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-22T14:29:46.411+0000)
LOW COOLDOWN? LOW COOLDOWN?
Sir, that cooldown is at 120 seconds AT ALL RANKS. Even with 45% CDR you're not getting that below a minute.
I forgot his ult was nerfed but the rest still stands.
CoolMike1271 votesIt's not much different than an Azir being able to deal true damage to a tower.
Sniper 01 voteshttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ7u36TaH40eZ1bjk_85j7r0-_vIZp9T4019HLhMhUZb4TU-u29Gg Because you're going to have a tower pushed to 25% at lvl 1? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Mutenroshi/let_me_laugh_even_harder.jpg
TNHA Baritone1 votesIf you have a 25% at any level under 8, you did something wrong or something happened.
Zone of Endless1 votesMeh, it's good when you're sieging inner/inhib tower. Otherwise he can always kill turret in 3/4 shot without lichbane. With Lich he does it in like 2/3.
edit: I should mention I'm talking about mid/late game. Early game it's not gonna be much.
IcyPepper1 votespossible from level 1...
I hope you mean the spell level.
