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One for all and teemo

Devotìon··41 votes·2,806 views

Why is teemo permabanned in this game mode but picks like OFA brand can still exist? I just want to know the reasoning why. Teemo is not as strong as he used to be in this current season :/ He's annoying, but not nearly as good in one for all as before.

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Handy Sandy 22 votes

Because a lot of people are too lazy to get a item 3364 and brand is a lesser known champion that uses mainly skillshots for damage.

Devotìon9 votes

But brand synergizes with himself TOO well, and the mage update pushed him over the scale for this game mode.

Auz the Ripper7 votes

But unlike teemo, at least one Brand has to be present to kill you. Teemos doesn't; at level 6 they can have between 50 and 83 mushrooms. At level 16 they can have between 75 and 125 mushrooms.

Owyn10 votes

but unlike teemo you can't simply disable brand with item 3341

Wheatloaf2 votes

The Teemos are still there, though. If it was just the shrooms, sweeper would shut them right down, but the Teemos aren't going to sit and twiddle their thumbs while you clear their stuff out.

LXII4 votes

And when the 5 Teemos meet the 5 Brands that just disabled their minefield?

all 5 Brands press R, all 5 Teemos die immediately.

Wheatloaf2 votes

Then, in that extremely specific situation, the Teemos all die. I do question why the Teemos all hard-engaged simultaneously, though.

LXII4 votes

Hard engaged? All they have to be doing is standing at their turret trying to clear minions off of it lol.

LXII5 votes

{quoted}

Because a lot of people are too lazy to get a item 3364 and brand is a lesser known champion that uses mainly skillshots for damage.

That skillful 5 man R press. lol

Bagguette11 votes

"Skill shots"

Qiy4na3 votes

honestly he only has 1

Cosnirak2 votes

If by 1 you mean 2, sure.

Qiy4na2 votes

his pillar of flame is hardly a skillshot

Cosnirak1 votes

Clearly you people have never played Brand. It's not that easy to land, in part because it's pretty slow, in part because it's shorter range than you think (the slowness allows for that cast and walk away that makes it look like it's long range).

FantasySniper1 votes

Ok, so his pillar of flame is technically a skillshot.

That's like comparing a javelin to a grenade launcher.

Cosnirak1 votes

Clearly you people have never played Brand. It's not that easy to land, in part because it's pretty slow, in part because it's shorter range than you think (the slowness allows for that cast and walk away that makes it look like it's long range).

It Hertz When IP2 votes

Mainly skillshots? He has two, one of which is a large AoE that it is really hard to miss with.

Jet Sett17 votes

Friggin Heimerdinger Is allowed, Teemo is HARDLY toxic enough to justify a perma ban. Ban Illaoi and Gnar too since they synergize incredibly hard with themselves, seriously, Gnar's can proc their max health damage off of each other, but the minefield you can sweep away is too broken?

Wind Whistler2 votes

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Friggin Heimerdinger Is allowed, Teemo is HARDLY toxic enough to justify a perma ban. Ban Illaoi and Gnar too since they synergize incredibly hard with themselves, seriously, Gnar's can proc their max health damage off of each other, but the minefield you can sweep away is too broken?

Lol. Someone finally realizes how absurd Gnar is in OFA. Honestly though, there's A LOT more wrong with Gnar than just Hyper.

LemurMonster6 votes

This is why I have yet to play this mode since like the 3rd time I came out. Until they undo this I wont play it. Are people that lazy to get a item that truly make his ulti useless!? yes.. yes they are..

Even in Poro King. people just straight out refuse to buy a item 2047 Even when I tell them to get one.. None never did.. after I kept telling them to buy it more than 3 times.. I lost like 5 games because of this.. & yeah I always the one to get it.

Riot... stop putting me with people this dense please... It's because of people like this.. This is the reason why Teemo Shroom damage is so bad among other things wrong with him.

SanKakU1 votes

If you feel like the damage is bad, you have one of 2 options, build more AP than you're building now, or build AD and take advantage of the movement speed slow. Perhaps use your passive for more attack speed.

GrReaper964 votes

Now imagine a map with 5 40% cdr teemos and 100 mushrooms

aspects14 votes

45% cdr

Blakiepug4 votes

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45% cdr

Just set a mushroom limit like they did in URF, duh. Easy fix.

LXII8 votes

Now imagine if there was a single item that rendered all of them useless for like 10 seconds at a time. Imagine that it's free. Then imagine your whole team can get them!

item 3364

Leetri3 votes

Teemo can place them faster than you can sweep them with that 60 second CD.

LXII8 votes

Wait, you mean you'd have to buy a pink ward every now and then? Or god forbid his ult actually goes off for once! You can't use oracle's to stop a Brand ult once, let alone every 60 seconds, seems fair enough to me.

Blakiepug2 votes

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Teemo can place them faster than you can sweep them with that 60 second CD.

Umm... Build MR. And the Oracle Alteration disables the shrooms it doesn't just reveal them so you could use it like all the professional Teemo hunters do to just run through the shrooms as if they weren't there.

Adriqnohee2 votes

If you time it right in the team fight phase and when going for objectives your team can use it for 50 seconds non stop giving it only a 10 seconds coolddown.

Meta Phyton1 votes

you didn't think before you wrote that comment. you're talking about an intricate, coordinated level of teamwork requiring trust, esteem, and friendliness ... from the LoL playerbase.

LXII2 votes

Generally you would be right, but most of the people in OFA (from my experience) are partied up, so it wouldn't be too tall of an order.

DeathToEcchi4 votes

Just wait til you play against 5 Zilean with max cdr...

Friendly Ram2 votes

Did that last ofa. Unfortunately ran into 5 yis. I hate his blink.

DeathToEcchi1 votes

Yah, when I got to play him it was against Akali. My team surrendered even though we were ahead 5 turrets and had one of the inhibs exposed.

Gora T2 votes

Last time my team didn't know how to play him , all game they were toxic towards me for choosing him.

MLDzXnRRR3 votes

Yesterday I played Zyra vs Illaoi . The game was something like 0/10 in 5 minutes and they opened mid.

SociopathFriend1 votes

Oh man- I remember Zyra the last time this mode came around- you had a veritable forest popping up under their turret and hell no they were not going to be anywhere near the creep wave.

Owyn3 votes

I wanted to play teemo but I can't [zombie-nunu-bummed]

SlyTactician 3 votes

Teemo's ult has already been limited in URF (only 20 shrooms on the map at all times) while his shroom duration timers even have been reduced down to 5 minutes since last year in regular game modes while oracles can even disarm his shrooms as well completely.

Champs like Heimer, Zilean, Zyra, etc are much more anti-fun in this mode than Teemo really when it comes to One for All at this point of time. Brand's new ult pretty much just screams team fights and 5 Brands altogether is a nightmare.

LXII2 votes

Especially Heimer. At least the others have to be higher than level 1 to push your inhibitor turrets. lol

warpenguin5553 votes

I agree, Brand should be permabanned as well as Heimerdinger and Yorick

ReZisT Lust2 votes

Brands skill shots Ex5 lol then Rx5

Vistrall2 votes

I was Karthus lol... go buy your Zhonyas and suck it up :)

Devotìon1 votes

yeah, hard to buy zhonya's as a draven and explain to your teamates why you were building ap for the first ten minutes of the game.

invisiblecat12 votes

Teemo and Karthus are always banned by Riot, because people are too lazy to get sweeping lense, and refuse to just buy a spectral cowl

SociopathFriend1 votes

The Karthus one is fair- Karthus one for all is so mind-numbingly dumb. Especially if the enemy team picks Karthus- then it's just double-ace every teamfight.

Gora T2 votes

Velkoz Velkoz

FantasySniper1 votes

Meanwhile Zilean

Princess Pusheen1 votes

The strange thing is, I couldn't pick him whenever I went to play one for all.. Then we made a 5 premade group and suddenly Teemo was there between the champs!!! So if you're premade 5, you can play with him, there's no permaban, but I don't know why Riot did this, unlogical...

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