All these threads about how "busted" zoe is

zoe isn't busted wtf

she's flat

Zoe's kit is extremly unhealthy. And justifying this kit just by comparing it to old nidalee is not an argument. Back then people complained about nidalee all the time. And finally she got reworked because of her kit being too unhealthy.

Well in general people make the laziest comparisons a lot of times.

Old Nidalee was different in the following ways:

Faster execution Shorter Cooldown More damage Self Heal Better mobility(can also jump through walls) Less Setup(didnt have to land another skillshot or did she have to wind it back)

Zoe is busted.

But Neeko is more busted.

So where does that leave us.. [sg-lux-2]

Old nidalee was reworked because she was a poorly designed champion. If that is the only champion you can think of to compare zoe to, the problem is with zoe.

Nidalee's Spear is significantly slower

Nidalee had no hard CC

Nidalee didn't use summoner spells as a basic ability

Nidalee didn't have safe waveclear and an afk laning phase

I was here and I complained a number of times about Nidalee back in the day. This thread is stupid.

MLGA MAKE LEAGUE GREAT AGAIN

If this thread gets more then 10 downvotes I will be disappointed massively in the community.

I mean. You have to be blind to not dodge Nedalee's spear. It should only hit if it comes from a bush or fog of war. Zoe's Q is faster and she has e, that makes q so much easier to hit. Also that e can go through walls and hit you when you can't even see it nor Zoe. Then q follows and kills you.

With Nedalee only damage can be compared, not unfairness of gameplay. When smb hits Nedalee spear I am kinda amazed, but when Zoe puts smb to sleep and then hits q on a non moving target and oneshots him ... it's just unfair. Add to that the fact that she gets free sums the entire laning phase. 3 redemptions or gunblades. It feels RNG as fuck.

I'm a Nidalee main she's still doing half hp damage with her spear late game if you have DH.

Oh god. The nightmares from broken hitbox are back.

Wait i'm confused this is much weaker then Zoe is now? what exactly are you trying to say?