Tanks are cheese burger in this meta

Yi Bencheikh·Jul 28, 2016·17 votes·1,293 views

Cant beleive my eyes seeing tanks like being killed in less than 2 seconds Is it me or there is wayy to much dmg in this meta ?

46 Comments

archerno1Jul 28, 20167 votes

Just one week ago people complained how tanks are unkillable, now tanks are weak?

"tank meta, who have more tanks win, we cant kills tanks boohoo"

MoonToonExJul 28, 20162 votes

I wouldn't say it was "one week ago". Sure, we just came outta the tank meta recently but this shift has been going on for sometime. I play tons of top lane and I feel like it's nothing but fighter/ splitpushing champs or cheesy counter-picks. Seems like I play against a tank like once ever 10 or more games.

The Yetii RiderJul 28, 20161 votes

Most tanks can't top and never could. Amumu, Sejuani, Gragas, Nunu, and others are exclusively junglers. There are more but I'm on my phone.

The only tanks that top are Malphite, Sion, Poppy and Maokai.

archerno1Jul 28, 20164 votes

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Most tanks can't top and never could. Amumu, Sejuani, Gragas, Nunu, and others are exclusively junglers. There are more but I'm on my phone.

The only tanks that top are Malphite, Sion, Poppy and Maokai.

Shen? Mundo? Gragas? Naut?

RalanrJul 28, 20163 votes

Mundo isn't a tank. He's a juggernaut.

garren9Jul 28, 20162 votes

Since I noticed you guys saying Mundo isn't a tank are getting dislikes, I thought I'd confirm. Riot said Mundo is a juggernaut which is a subclass of fighter.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

The Yetii RiderJul 28, 20162 votes

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Shen? Mundo? Gragas? Naut?

Mundo isn't a tank, he's a fighter.

Gragas sees more play in the jungle than top. Nautilus sees more play as a support.

Shen doesn't see play at all.

MoonToonExJul 28, 20161 votes

Mundo ... idk if he's considered a tank or not so w/e Gragas can lane, Naut USE to be played top a decent bit. Shen also use to be played top a lot ...

Now a days I don't even see the tanks listed above (Mao/ Poppy and such) played often if at all top.

PermabannedGarenJul 28, 20163 votes

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Mundo isn't a tank, he's a fighter.

Gragas sees more play in the jungle than top. Nautilus sees more play as a support.

Shen doesn't see play at all.

Shen is the eleventh most played top laner. He is played a lot more often than any other tank top lane if one doesn't consider Gnar a tank.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

KeepeJul 28, 20161 votes

Singed.

grugJul 28, 20161 votes

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Just one week ago people complained how tanks are unkillable, now tanks are weak?

"tank meta, who have more tanks win, we cant kills tanks boohoo"

the people that say tank meta are probably ARAM onnly players l0l

Critmaster GarenJul 28, 20162 votes

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Just one week ago people complained how tanks are unkillable, now tanks are weak?

"tank meta, who have more tanks win, we cant kills tanks boohoo"

mate, there are still daily posts on this board about people complaining about "the tank meta".

apparantly tanks are not supposed to be anything other than big looking punching bags with no utility or damage of their own and get killed in 5 seconds or less.

MunchCrunchLunchJul 29, 20161 votes

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Just one week ago people complained how tanks are unkillable, now tanks are weak?

"tank meta, who have more tanks win, we cant kills tanks boohoo"

no people complained about ekko and fizz. non tanks. that built tank damage to further make their naturally hard to fucking kill design even harder

its sad to see a full tank malphite or any full tank building champ getting cced once and dying before that cc even expires.

BloodyTomponJul 28, 20164 votes

Cheese burgers are gross.

AMYS GRAVEJul 28, 20165 votes

http://cdn1.tmbi.com/TOH/Images/Photos/37/300x300/exps48107_TH2379798C03_29_1b_WEB.jpg

shut your commie mouth.

BloodyTomponJul 28, 20161 votes

This is what passes for a cheese burger in Australia.

https://mcdonalds.com.au/sites/mcdonalds.com.au/files/hero_pdt_cheeseburger.png

Duke AnaxJul 28, 20162 votes

Lucky you, this is what passes for a cheeseburger here: http://aht.seriouseats.com/images/20081211-mcd-doublecheese.jpg

RalanrJul 28, 20161 votes

I feel so sorry for you.

SpoofghoulJul 28, 20162 votes

next time use real cheese

not that plastic stuff lol

AMYS GRAVEJul 28, 20162 votes

Twitch "It's sticky so you don't drop it."

Sona PingJul 28, 20164 votes

Just because they are "tank champions" does not mean said champion was "tanky" at that time.

Duke AnaxJul 28, 20162 votes

True, when I play Taric or Alistar or Galio, I often last over 15 seconds depending on the matchup.

MunchCrunchLunchJul 29, 20161 votes

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Just because they are "tank champions" does not mean said champion was "tanky" at that time.

at a 6 item late game these full tanks tanks will die in ~ 3 seconds

xWatersJul 28, 20163 votes

I wish I could show you some of my nautilus games. Build full tank but crumble in 2 seconds. It's disgusting and mainly frustrating since you do no damage but aren't tanky either.

CoolKnightSTJul 28, 20163 votes

It's always been like this. First tank get nerfed to dead because of offtanks that abuse the itematisation. Than they buff marksmen & than they nerf tanks again because of those offtanks and than they buff mages. Finally we end up in a mirror of the previous season...

SpookyNeedleJul 28, 20163 votes

Health is a lot better than armor right now

GrithokJul 28, 20161 votes

Very true.

Kal Vas FlamJul 28, 20162 votes

item 3071 item 3036 item 3142

item 3070 Leona

ItsOrvalJul 28, 20162 votes

Theyre not building right. Theyre building 400+ armor for some reason when they should be building 5.5k health with 150 armor & MR.

Buttigieg 2020Jul 28, 20162 votes

Tanks are op, git gud.

Sire HippingtonJul 28, 20162 votes

One of the big issues, asides from overall damage creep and the stupid 45% arpen items, is that high magical dps is very common. In previous season, you would get one MR items and then focus on armor and you're relatiely fine. Now if you only built 1 mr item, that midlaner will tear you appart in no time, but if you go more heavy into mr, their ADC will not even need arpen to shred through you.

As a side result, tanks can get near unkillable early-mid, especially vs badly balanced teamcomps, cause their items have to be overtuned to put up with the bullshit scaleing of dps and the stupid %pen later on, as the def items have not much multipliers and need to built a resitence type that is usless against +50% of the opponents. So a tank either gets ~3 armor items early and is near unkillable for ad champs at that point, but gets dumpstered by magic dps, or he stacks mr early and ignores mages while getting slaughtered by ad, pr he goes for a mix and depending on wether he was ahead or not he's just not tanky at all or totally tanky. Lategame, you either have a full armor built and tank ad champs well, but have to avoid mages that just xtreminate you, or you get alot MR and ignore mages while dying fast to adc (2armor+2-3 mr items already is a heavy mr built that leads to this case), or you go for a mix and die relatively fast to everyone.

lilpokflufJul 28, 20161 votes

Delicious?

KoggyStyleJul 28, 20162 votes

Warwick Tuant spamming: MMM Delicious.

WolfChasesJul 28, 20161 votes

Naha, you just have to adapt to changes, that's all. After a 7 years of league I have learned that this game cannot be balanced at all. If tanks are weak in this meta, they will be strong in the next one while assassins and adcs are gonna suck, in some other meta, mages may be OP while assassins or fighters would be useless.

warpenguin555Jul 28, 20161 votes

upvoted for calling them cheeseburgers

BananaJannanaJul 28, 20161 votes

You leave the cheese burgers out of this

GrithokJul 28, 20161 votes

Yeah, I feel similarly. I love playing tanks and having CC but I feel like I have to switch to fighters because they often somehow feel tankier, usually due to the insane sustain they have when combod with 3 tank items. ( Illaoi Darius Irelia )

LuggJul 28, 20161 votes

The amount of armor pen in the game from items, runes, and masteries is ridiculous. You literally have to be above 300 armor to stand a chance.

Twerk a FishJul 29, 20161 votes

300? I was almost 600 armor vs full AD team and I was deleted in 2.8 seconds. I still have no clue after 5-6 seasons how armor penetration works. Does it work globally for entire team or just you? Imagine if every enemy has 40% pene, in the end you have 0 armor left...

LuggJul 29, 20161 votes

With 600 armor, you probably are only negating 75% of the damage since there are diminishing returns on armor. So if an ADC is hitting you for 1k damage, you are still taking 250 damage per hit. With that much armor, you health probably wasn't that high. You have to build health and armor. Anything over 300 armor is kind of a waste, health is much better at that point.

Also, pen is calculated per person, it doesn't stack unless someone on their team has Black Cleaver.

Twerk a FishJul 30, 20161 votes

I had ~3.5-4k health as well. I was caught and my team didn't follow really good team fight opportunity (enemies threw CC they had on me and they were all 5 grouped together in small place). Anyways yeah I was smacked to dirt in few seconds.

Captain AishiJul 28, 20161 votes

I've been playing quite a bit of Sejuani lately, and in games where I'm about even with my enemies or not too far behind, I run more into the problem of being out of mana long before I run out of health in a fight

DunkinNoobsJul 29, 20161 votes

If champs like that are dying that quickly, then you fucked up hard somewhere. I'm guessing you went in 1v5 and then got focused by 5 people for free.

Twerk a FishJul 29, 20161 votes

True flat tanks are trash, build damage and semi-tank or don't play tank champion at all.

NotCounterJul 29, 20161 votes

everyone bitched about tank meta a few weeks ago... they spewed the same buzz line of "damage is too high" but it was directed as why tanks were overpowered and not underpowered

this community is silly

Gimpy89Jul 29, 20161 votes

i like playing a 5 tank comp because if you win you can say "tanks for the game" in all chat.