@riot the issue with support is what i call the "elo fluke"

FallenAngel16··1 votes·364 views

i hope riot doesnt change supports too much (as they seem to be thinking of doing). heres my take on support

support is a extremely important skillset that is different from a carry role. you take a top-god and make them play support and they will fail, because support has very different skills that you learn.

it feels good for many support players out there to feel like they have a skillset that is special, and took time to learn, and that they are more powerful than say a top-player in the support role due to their supporting skills they gained and worked hard to master

support offers a very different way to play the game, with different skills you learn in the role. being the weak guy, and making plays as the weak guy to do big things is very fun to many people. many people enjoy that fantasy. while other players, like being the big guy and dont like being the weak guy. as support you carry by being stronger than the other weak-guy on the enemy team

jungle, mid, top, adc, and support all feel very different and all are attractive to different types of people. its what makes league so awesome, having 5 very different styles that all require different game knowledge to master

if riot changes support too much, such as giving them "equal gold to laners" as im seeing being discussed. youll be almost removing a type of game style and just replacing it with another carry style. basically youll just be creating two midlanes but one has high-cc. honestly this removes a big feel of the game and almost is like going from 5 roles to 4. which i feel makes the game less fun.

i think current support is very fun to many people who enjoy the current feel of support where your the "weak one" that is weaker than your teammates, but you carry by realizing the enemy team also as a "weak one" so you are useful by doing more for your team than the enemy support. this style is fun for many people. and i think many more people would enjoy supporting, if not for the "main issue"

i love to support. and im a godly support. but theres an issue. I WANT TO FUCKING WIN AND CLIMB RANK. and i simply have a much higher winrate when i top/jungle than when i support. for a simple and clear issue.

the MAIN ISSUE WITH SUPPORT, is that its the only role that absolutely requires your teammates to not be completely outclassed for you to shine. if your support and your top darius get fukt by the enemy riven and goes 0-6, theres almost nothing for your team to do to win against that 6-0 riven.

when you see that 6-0 riven, i like to call that a "elo fluke". it doesnt happen all the time, but it happens "enough" to make people hate supporting

as support, if you got a "elo fluke" and one of your laners gets fukt. then you lost and your 100% powerless to stop it. your teammates will say report the feeder, ask to open, ask to 20ff, and heck the person who got fukt is probably already DC / ragequitted

and honestly i aint even mad at the person who got fukt, i just wish he didnt pay for his boost... hes free to play the game just like the rest of us but just DO IT IN YOUR FUCKING BRONZE ELO NOT IN MY FUCKING PLAT. get the fk out of my elo. whenever you see a elo fluke like that and your game ruined, you can be 90% certain that guy paid for a boost. the elo boosting services are seeing business booming for a reason, cuz kids are fken bad. anyway moving on

so anyway. as top/mid/jungle, you are able to carry with your own power and "be the fluke yourself" and even if your enemy team has a fluke, you can be a fluke too and fuck your enemy and go 6-0 yourself. it is extremely easy for me to go 6-0 in toplane and jungle and mid. cuz kids are fucking bad and shitting on them is easy. but you cant go 6-0 as support, because the role just isnt like that.

as top/jungle/mid. you can "carry". but supports dont "carry" that way. heck you cant even really carry as adc either in the past 2-3 seasons, cuz bots a 2v3 lane and your jungler is probably garbage anyway.

top/jungle/mid are the biggest "carry" roles right now where you can just shit on your opponent if you are on a higher level. but as support, you have rely on your teammates to "not suck" and you make plays off them "not sucking". but if your teammates suck, then supporting sucks

losing games like that feels really bad. as a top-god who tries support sometimes, whenever i see my toplaner feed and get crushed in lane, my instant thought is "yup. screw that. im not supporting again. its fun but cant risk the toplaner being a feed artist"

so HOW can riot fix this problem? the problem is MOST PEOPLE WANT tO FUCKING WIN. and if you want to win, then picking support is a pretty "bad idea".

sure, support is "fun", but if you pick it you will probably lose. supports dont carry, they get carried. and i dont even think this is a bad thing. its what makes the role unique

having a role that "gets carried" is in my opinion a very good thing. and that role of being the "weak one" is fun to MANY PEOPLE. i dont believe riot should change support to "let them carry". no. fuck that. that destroys what makes the role "fun". its a role many girls enjoy for that very reason. its fun for many girls to be the "weak one" and get carried by the "big D boys". my gf is right next to me as im writing this and she confirms she enjoys the role for that reason. and its also very fun in the pro scene to have a "weak guy" role at the highest level of play where it contains a very special skillset to know how to carry as the "weak guy"

here is how i think riot can fix the support issue without changing it, but making it more popular

so how can you fix this issue without massively changing support and "letting them carry" ?. i got a genius fix

you can simply make support gain around 10x the MMR/elo/ranking reward for winning a game. but they lose a normal amount when they lose

so actually, i have to change a little something i said. people dont "want to win". they "want elo". its rank/elo that players are actually addicted to. if my account was bugged and i could lose games and gain elo, you bet your fucking ass id lose 20 games in a row. fuck yes. give me that elo. ALL I CARE ABOUT IS ELO. GIVE ME THAT ELO

so my 10x elo/rank/mmr reward is the perfect fix. by giving people more of the elo they are addicted to, it will increase the popularity of support without needing to change the role

this would make support much more popular because people would say "supports fun and i enjoy it. and hey, its ok if i get some elo flukes and feed-artist teams. because the 10x win reward makes up for it". so many people who want to play support COULD NOW START PLAYING SUPPORT and they would feel good because they are gaining rank even when a bunch of their teams suck. because if your good enough to win a decent amount, you will climb rank much faster

so thats my solution. and i know your thinking "dude. people would abuse that. people would queue support and play mid". AND NOPE DUDE. your wrong. cuz i thought of that too. heres my solution to that little problem

the 10x win reward will be given to the player on the team who has "the lowest gold gained from killing minions/monsters". so this would make the bonus win reward always go to the support. so you wouldnt be able to queue support and just go mid. whoever has the lowest gold gained from minions/monsters in a game, would gain the 10x elo/rank/mmr win reward

so boom. thats my solution. what you guys think?

2 Comments

Moooose31 votes

Personally I agree with some of what you said but picking support doesn't mean you aren't going to win lol. I'm a d3/d2 support main with 4 accounts all ranging from plat1+. To be fair I am a one trick but across my 4 accounts I have a 67% winrate in like 670 games. If you're a good support you win and you can carry yourself. At the same time though I do agree that support shouldn't be changed. The entire point of support is to help the people on your team who actually have gold. Sure you can carry, which is why many supports have high cc kits, but at the end of the day most supports don't end up doing the most damage on the team. And that's ok, that's not what they're supposed to do. They support the rest of the team and any changes to the support role in general I think is a bad idea. Changing assassins is one thing, because that is a tier of junglers, mid laners, top laners and all that. Changing an entire role I think is a huge mistake and really shouldn't be implemented. Maybe change mages, Idk, but please for the love of god Riot don't change the entire support role. Bad idea.

FallenAngel161 votes

ayy

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