OK... legit wtf... can someone explain wukongs winrate to me... ?

FallenAngel16·1/25/2017, 7:37:13 PM·6 votes·2,307 views

http://champion.gg/champion/MonkeyKing/Top

ok... so wtf

in wukongs winrate... look at what "counters him"

these are pretty big sample sizes imo. 120 games per matchup

and wukongs got a fricken 55% to to 59% in every matchup. a 63% winrate vs fiora

apparently the only champion that wukons has a bad winrate against is riven

so wtf... for real... is wukong completely hidden OP / broken?

what even beats wukong apparently? he has a 55% winrate vs everything?

35 Comments

Galactic Pimp1/25/2017, 7:40:30 PM4 votes

He has great early game cheese that inexperienced soloq players tend to disrespect, I don't think he's OP at all, anyone that's half decent at their champ and knows when to pick their fights with him can beat him, on nearly every champion.

RlP K0BE1/25/2017, 7:40:24 PM2 votes

Look at the sample sizes. Not many people are playing Wukong except for his mains which are probably influencing those numbers.

dominusx1/25/2017, 7:41:58 PM2 votes

2% fkn playrate. you know what that means? Only DEDICATED ONETRICKS play him. ofc he has a high winrate when only onetricks use him. All onetrick usually have 60% winrate on their champs. The champ is trash go into rank right now and try to win with WUkong you wont his lane is abysmal his only chance of winning lane vs most laners is to cheese lvl 2 with tld and ignite. I would LOVE for him to become decent again cause i like him as a champ a lot. i even have two skins on him that i dont get to use anymore.

cuddlykitten41/25/2017, 7:53:28 PM2 votes

A sweeper.........A sweeper beats Wukong......smh

Nite Owl II1/25/2017, 7:39:35 PM2 votes

Poppy

Iron Wu1/25/2017, 8:36:20 PM1 votes

These numbers surprise me, I started off only playing Wukong and I loved him but I found I got countered pretty easily top lane so I stopped. Then again everyone ONLY played Illoai or Darius.. and Illoai... hate laning against that champ.

Meep Man1/25/2017, 9:04:33 PM1 votes

Wukong is like old Malzahar. Has really high win rate numbers that no one can explain or will abuse.

Rindin141/26/2017, 11:45:45 PM1 votes

Well in my opinion the reason for that winrate is in the simple mechanics of his kit.

Regardless of his early game trades or laning presence, Wukong has an incredibly powerful teamfighting combo. The combination of his short-range stealth and jump allow him to position himself wherever he needs to in the fight (unless you are lucky enough to catch him approaching on a ward and then you might be able to catch him out) and then his ultimate goes off.

Oh boy that ultimate...

Let's look at it mathematically

MonkeyKing Ultimate = the channeled damage of Katarina ultimate + the AOE pop up of Malphite ultimate - the ability to interrupt said channeled damage.

This...to me...seems profoundly unfair.

If it behaved like most powerful ultimates of this class then people like Lulu Lissandra or Cassiopeia would have no problem cc'ing him to survive (which is what makes it okay that people like katarina do so much damage on their channeled AOE ablitlies). This creates a fun skill contest as the channeled ultimate tries to go off in a scenario where it cannot be cc'd and then is able to devastate the fight.

Wukong's ultimate, however, simply ignores this dynamic and dominates every fight instead. Not only does it ignore cc, it actually provides cc of it's own so that you can't even escape it (the other way to counter powerful channeled abilities.

TL:DR Wukong is powerful because of a fundamentally flawed kit that includes all of the strengths and none of the weaknesses of similar abilities.

Critmaster Garen1/27/2017, 12:00:03 AM1 votes

i dont understand it either.

have not lost a single lane against a wukong as long as i remember. item 3047 singlehandedly wins you the lane against him, since 90% he does is auto attacks.

including his q, which is also treated as an auto attack.

A Doorknob1/31/2017, 8:27:39 PM1 votes

It probably has to do with what the meta is in top lane right now and champs in general right now. Champs like Jayce are frequented. Wukong is strong against these sort of champs. If the meta changes, Wukong's win rate would lower back to normality.

Profirix2/11/2017, 5:45:49 AM1 votes

He builds full lethality, has a built-in gap close on short cooldown, a stealth to approach before leaping, and an ultimate that knocks you up and does TONS of damage that cannot be interrupted. It isn't a surprise that he can win games just by jumping the back line and dealing most of his damage before you even have time to flash out of range. I was thinking the other day why the hell he is allowed to exist in a state like that. He doesn't have enough counterplay.

Twitch Chat2/11/2017, 8:21:09 PM1 votes

K O N G S Q U A D O N G S Q U A D

Ralanr1/25/2017, 7:41:48 PM1 votes

I think it might just be a product of the meta.

Full AD Wukong hurts.

venomous frost1/25/2017, 7:52:26 PM1 votes

Fervor change might've made his ult insanely good

Not too sure about the "only mains play him" argument, lots of champs have sub 3% playrate. Playrates never generally get close to 10% unless they are a meta champ.

Even poppy top only has a 8% playrate with merely 12% banrate

Truth is, we can only guess what causes his winrate

He might be the next big thing, or he might he the ape that only mains play

Ad Vitam Aeterna1/25/2017, 7:56:50 PM1 votes

Only good Wukongs play Wukong and Wukong has extreme early game power that most don't know because he's such a rare pick. If he was played more people would realize how to play against him. His number one counters are Chogath and Swain, Wu was the first champ I mained up to Plat and these were the only champs I pretty much never felt like I even had the chance to cheese or outplay. Cho has too much sustain/tankyness while Swain absolutely dominates the trade.

Dreadlocks1/25/2017, 8:24:49 PM1 votes

cause he's easy and good at what he does. meaning, there isn't much room for error.