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So, why does Ivern get free buffs for his team?

Fisher No Chains··3 votes·1,894 views

Ivern's winrate is very high, we all know that. It might be not because of his kit, but because of itemization. Yet there's one thing in his kit that imo makes no sense. Ivern doesn't have to give his buffs up, because he gets 4 for free (not counting enemy buffs).

Having a midlaner with blue buff, a toplaner/adc with red buff and Ivern with a double buff is a HUGE advantage. Basically, Ivern gets a free slow and sustain + no mana issues for 2 minutes, his toplaner/adc gets free damage and sustain, and his mid gets free cdr and mana regen; all this at the cost of nothing for Ivern.

Also, if he invades and manages to get enemy buffs, he can have 3 PEOPLE on his team with double buff. Honestly, it seems stupid to me.

If you want to nerf him, start with removing some stuff that makes no sense like this "free buffs" thing. After all his winrate is high not because he carries games through damage, but because he's extremely good at giving his team options to carry for him.

8 Comments

Touch My Box1 votes

Riot don't care about Ivern because he isn't invisble.

Fisher No Chains1 votes

And he's a support.

Ralanr1 votes

It's because he can't actually give buffs otherwise. He can't bring any camp to a low health for his midlaner to kill.

If you removed it, then the midlaner would have to leave lane and 100-0 the golem by themselves. Which would probably take too long and basically make it an open mid.

Fisher No Chains2 votes

Or they could just make buffs drop a Herald-like thing that gives your the buff when you walk on it. So he could either get it or give it.

Ralanr1 votes

Maybe. Seems like just adding extra seconds.

I know Ivern is strong, but I think nerfs should be to his shield function and base stats.

Hethalean1 votes

Why does any champion get anything especially if it provides an advantage for their team?

Tensec1 votes

Ivern can never get 4 buffs lul And the buffs don't do shit past lv5

Fisher No Chains1 votes

4 buffs for his team. Double for him + red + blue.

And buffs still do a lot during the whole game, especially red buff.

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