Can we buff the speed on Zed's W?

I GANK LANES··5 votes·924 views

The dude has seen numerous nerfs, the last one being pretty substantial. Zed used to be a quick, fast moving assassin that required a lot of skill to be used to the best of his ability. With exhaust being buffed, Zhonyas dropping in price, his ult being nerfed, attack speed, QSS available, he has a lot of counterplay when playing against him. He has no resets, is very ult reliant to guarantee a kill, and doesn't scale great into late game.

With his shadow speed drastically being reduced and now his ult getting a nerf, I feel like Zed could use some help. Now I realize that his w before the nerfs were ridiculously fast, but I'm just suggesting that we could meet somewhere in the middle, maybe a bit more leaning towards the previous. I feel like Zed with his ult being nerfed has counteryplay in and of itself there, plus multiple items, and giving him this small buff would make Zed feel a lot more clean and crisp, more ninja-esque if you will, like he should be.

Zed item 3070

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umbraˉ3 votes

prepare for a shit ton of downvotes

Every time Zed levels his W make the missile speed increase by 250 so by the time it's maxed out it will be back at 2500

I GANK LANES1 votes

Awesome idea.

I GANK LANES1 votes

Edit; This would also most likely steer some players from maxing e after q, which would make his lane presence less prominent

umbraˉ1 votes

Only noob Zed's would do that. Maxing W second is pretty much killing half of your damage. Also if you ult someone you better hope you land your Q or they're probably not gonna die since your E would be so weak. Your wave clear would also be alot weaker.

SirSoap2 votes

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Only noob Zed's would do that. Maxing W second is pretty much killing half of your damage. Also if you ult someone you better hope you land your Q or they're probably not gonna die since your E would be so weak. Your wave clear would also be alot weaker. I think that you're going a bit too far saying that only noob Zeds would max W second after the proposed buff.

The cooldown on his E is always 4 seconds and his basestats are

Physical Damage: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+ 80% Bonus AD)

So by maxing it second you get 120 bonus base damage

The cooldown on his W goes down with levels to 14 seconds up from 18 seconds and the bonus AD stats are

Bonus Attack damage: 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25% Bonus AD

So at level 5 you would not only have more bonus AD (24AD with 95 bonus AD instead of 5AD with 95 bonus AD) but also a much faster shadow which would actually make it somewhat viable maxing it second since a much faster W is really powerfull.

umbraˉ1 votes

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I think that you're going a bit too far saying that only noob Zeds would max W second after the proposed buff.

The cooldown on his E is always 4 seconds and his basestats are

Physical Damage: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+ 80% Bonus AD)

So by maxing it second you get 120 bonus base damage

The cooldown on his W goes down with levels to 14 seconds up from 18 seconds and the bonus AD stats are

Bonus Attack damage: 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25% Bonus AD

So at level 5 you would not only have more bonus AD (24AD with 95 bonus AD instead of 5AD with 95 bonus AD) but also a much faster shadow which would actually make it somewhat viable maxing it second since a much faster W is really powerfull.

If people didn't max W 2nd in S3 they wouldn't do it after this buff

I GANK LANES2 votes

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I think that you're going a bit too far saying that only noob Zeds would max W second after the proposed buff.

The cooldown on his E is always 4 seconds and his basestats are

Physical Damage: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+ 80% Bonus AD)

So by maxing it second you get 120 bonus base damage

The cooldown on his W goes down with levels to 14 seconds up from 18 seconds and the bonus AD stats are

Bonus Attack damage: 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25% Bonus AD

So at level 5 you would not only have more bonus AD (24AD with 95 bonus AD instead of 5AD with 95 bonus AD) but also a much faster shadow which would actually make it somewhat viable maxing it second since a much faster W is really powerfull.

This

SirSoap2 votes

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prepare for a shit ton of downvotes

Every time Zed levels his W make the missile speed increase by 250 so by the time it's maxed out it will be back at 2500

Tbh this idea just sounds great! I hope Riot sees this...

Kochiya Sanae3 votes

i agree zed's ult shouldnt be countered with a single item buy

1000angrybees3 votes

Zed just shouldnt have his current ult. It works against him and it's not fun to play against, either.

Kivolan3 votes

He's a manaless champion with poke that's already difficult enough to avoid as it is.

No.

CreationFlaw2 votes

I see people crying about zed, but his winrate is still good. I was tired of zed every game anyway.

NemeBro1 votes

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I see people crying about zed, but his winrate is still good. I was tired of zed every game anyway.

A win rate of 48.41% isn't really "good", lol.

Edyr4202 votes

i dont understand the downvotes. Diana jungle is worse and has mich higher kill potential than zed. and zeds lategame can be very frustrating to play.

I GANK LANES1 votes

If you're gonna disagree include an actual reason thanks

I GANK LANES1 votes

Bump Zed

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