When it's 9 versus 1. The concept of surrendering. Please read.

Moriss··2 votes·343 views

Or at least make it so I lose slightly less LP when the game becomes 9 vs 1. Let me tell you that's exactly how it feels. It's not fun, It's not fair when you're robbed every chance of trying in what is supposed to be a competitive game mode.

If you ask me the people who are so quick to hit surrender are the people who should be playing normal's . If you're playing ranked you should fight to the finish there's actually something at stake. When that something at stake is robbed from me because of 4 complete strangers I feel cheated.

At the very least I shouldn't be punished as harshly for a loss that I wanted to prevent but the other 9 players said otherwise. At the end of this post I feel like this is the best way to consolidate my feelings on the situation. I hope this concept can get some attention because over the course of my league career I've lost at least a whole bracket's worth of LP from the 9 versus 1 scenario all too commonly used.

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Quil Evrything3 votes

if 4 people want to surrender, odds are you arent giong to win. And the reasno you arent going to win, is becuase they played badly. taking away their option to surrender isnt going to take away your win.

and no, they will never give you less of a penalty if you dont vote along with them.. because effectively that would mean there is a penalty for surendering. Not going to do it.

Moriss1 votes

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if 4 people want to surrender, odds are you arent giong to win. And the reasno you arent going to win, is becuase they played badly. taking away their option to surrender isnt going to take away your win.

and no, they will never give you less of a penalty if you dont vote along with them.. because effectively that would mean there is a penalty for surendering. Not going to do it.

Ok here's the thing. Those 4 people at a lower elo say the one im in might not have the amount of experience I do. They might not see the potential I do. You can't argue that there are'nt completely winnable games that are simply thrown in the trash due to somebody else's baby rage They may very well be a 4 man premade and I might have my voice taken away from me due to the flaws of matchmaking and dynamic q.

My team should be in it to win it along with me. Not against me because they weren't feeling it. I'm all for normal's retaining surrender as an option. There are way too many variables for me to fight however in order for me to climb the ladder. My own team should absolutely not be one of them. I'll admit a good of this lies in ethics and gameplay theory; That being said It's absolutely unfun and unfair to have a defeat sign shoved in my face due to people who just don't feel like trying anymore.

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IEM was just decided on a surrender. Even pro players know that there is a point when it's useless to keep going.

To compare a professional game to soloq games is ridiculous. Don't even get me started.

Quil Evrything1 votes

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.... There are way too many variables for me to fight however in order for me to climb the ladder. My own team should absolutely not be one of them.

LOLOLOL.. youve been playing ranked how long how?

for solo queue, your own team is the BIGGEST OBSTACLE to overcome, almost every game. you have to overcome the feeders..the toxic babies... the "I'm gonna do it my way even if we lose" morons...

That's why the change to allow friends it so huge..

Too bad I have very few ranked-reliable friends, and the ones that I do have... are rarely ready to play when I am :(

1 800 MID LANE2 votes

IEM was just decided on a surrender. Even pro players know that there is a point when it's useless to keep going.

disregardable1 votes

Nobody in normals ever surrenders.

darkdill1 votes

"Get some friends and stop whining." - Riot Games

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

In all honesty, I feel you, man. I hate when my teammates go "stfu, we won't let you climb ranked ladder because we're having fun!"

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