If Sions passive had a actual cooldown...

Agidyne··2 votes·700 views

Could you possibly make it so the enemy team is forced to kill him through his passive instead of running away like cowards?

No joke.

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deadlychuck2 votes

In the realm of fixing passives, could we also make Zyra's also have one and increase the power on it, or at least remove the delay to cast upon death?

Kuroi862 votes

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Agidyne1 votes

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Is the Bronze Mallet a popular item in your league?

Riot nerfed the item into unviability

CircusT4ffy2 votes

I dont understand why Sions passive is so terrible, you smash into the enemy team during a team fight - if they focus you, you die and have already opened up on them and can possibly clean up on them unless you get CC'd hard. Your team should be with you if you die. That's the idea.

Agidyne1 votes

That would be true if Sions ult had an actual decent hit radius.

Let me explain it to you.

Sion is highly kitable, his ult is unreliable as fuck and his Q forces him to charge in place.

If you die during a teamfight, there is no way you can close the gap with your passive.

If you could flash or use exhaust or something, then yes, the passive would actually be pretty good.

But you can't.

If a Morgana dark binds you, the enemy can just walk away, which is bullshit and makes no sense whatsoever.

That's why I would like for his passive to be like Aatrox passive. You aren't meant to die in a fight, but incase you do, you are still a very high threat, and if you manage to survive long enough, you come back to life.

Kinda like what the Old Sion would do with his ult.

All that at the cost of a long cooldown obviously.

CircusT4ffy1 votes

Sions Ult is all about the surprise. Often I mouse over the ability Icon to check it's range and then pop it causing the global sound effect - enemies have no idea im about to slam my nuts in their face until it's already too late. Once I hit them I have my W up and ready to blast since you can acitvate it during your ult, you pop it - start Q and chain that CC after your Ult and then use E to slow them down and continue following up. This isn't like a 100-0 but it sure scare the shit out of your lane opponent or open up for your teammates to follow up insanely well. Unless they want to burn a flash for you to miss your 90/60 second CDR ultimate it's nothing. They can't see your ultimate coming and if they do they'd need to have a dash or some mobility to get out of the way. Which isn't always the case, but hey your ult has Low CD and you can try it again. His ult also makes him impossible to stop as a split pusher, since if anyone comes to stop you - you can fight them. If you're losing just GRRRAWWWRRRGHH away all the way down the lane.

He is highly kitable, that is kind of the point. He has caveats that prevent him from being completely useless in lane. Use your E, it costs almost no mana and you can capitalize off of it to ensure you atleast get a shield pop on your enemy and even possibly a Q (Making them pop their mobility skill if they want to dodge it.)

If you die and Morgana has the need to Dark Bind YOU instead of one of your teammates that means your team should be right up after them. Even without Flash or Exhaust often I die in the thick of the enemy team and get a few solid meaty punches in - I've gotten triples just by dying and popping speed burst and socking people in the face because my Team is more of a threat to them than me - and they forget about me being a thing.

If you're going to fight, make sure you have the advantage and try to cover your allies. You've got so much Tankiness and available CC to chunk the enemy team with once you get in there even if you do die you can get back up and keep on fighting. What makes it so terrifying is how guaranteed your damage is going to be.

Now as long as you don't 1v5, and try to focus the carries/peel for your own you should be fine! I rarely have moments my passive is ever useless, even when I get 1v2'd and die in the middle of my lane I just pick up a little farm then go back to base.

I don't think his passive needs to be changed but this is simply from my own experience.

Funnily enough if you really want to use your passive that badly you could always build -

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Since you can still use items, + It'd help you get tanky against any AP they have.

AtheosisX1 votes

Or just make it better overall. It definitely needs something. It's terrible right now.

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