"Trust nothing to chance" - Gangplank

Agidyne·Oct 26, 2015·106 votes·3,974 views

> Proceeds to build full Crit.

53 Comments

IcyPepperOct 26, 201566 votes

But that's why you build 100% crit chance.

Shroom JunkieOct 27, 201510 votes

item 3046 item 3031 item 3078 item 3035 item 3158 Best build NA

For CarthageOct 27, 201518 votes

item 3078 item 3046 item 3142 item 3031 item 1334

Way better for your barrels.

Shroom JunkieOct 27, 201538 votes

Well screw that if we want barrel damage item 3031 item 3158

For CarthageOct 27, 201510 votes

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SlyfoxkanOct 27, 20151 votes

Need that armor pen with da youmuu doe. it does more dmg as a second item than IE lol (against targets with less than 100 armor last i checked)

HayRossOct 27, 20151 votes

If you want armor penetration, get a item 3035 instead. More attack damage and armor pen

SlyfoxkanOct 27, 20156 votes

no... you want flat armor pen not percent armor pen with gp. EDIT: at least against targets below 100 as i first said.

Target has 100 armor and you have item 3035 :( [35 X armor]% X [40 armor]%= 61% armor pen with barrels) aka 61 armor pen total

Target has 100 armor and you have item 3142 : 40% times 100 = 40 armor pen with 20 so** 60 armor pen. **

Add in some rune armor pen (max of 19) and you got some dmg.

Reason why LW is worse than Youmuu in most cases? So for one more armor pen and 10 AD if you go LW you would be giving up 10% cdr, 15% crit, WAY more dmg on targets less than 100, and that speed and attackspeed steroid. LW just isnt as gold efficient. AND ( if you have armor pen marks like i do u almost deal true damage) and if they have70 armor you "DO" deal true dmg. just because you have youmuu. (19 armor pen from runes leaves them with like 2 or 3 armor.

The damage with youmuus only gets substantially better as the target has even less armor. unless their team is packing like 2-3 threatening champs with like 150+ armor LW for LW to be gold efficicient, its not worth it on gp. You would be giving up the

300k mastery points on GP. Gangplank

HayRossOct 27, 20151 votes

Teach me your ways, Captain

DessemOct 27, 20152 votes

But 40% of 70 is 28, so with +20 from Youmuu you're at 48. I don't think masteries/runes can make up the deficit 22 ArPen, can they?

WarlemmingOct 27, 20152 votes

Whisper + Barrel shred is 35% pen + 40% pen: 0.6 x 0.65 = 0.39, or 61% armour pen, not 54%.

This means in your 100 Armour example, you reduce them by (unsurprisingly) 61 armour, compared to Youmuu's 60 armour.

Whisper is still the superior choice from 100 armour+

SlyfoxkanOct 27, 20152 votes

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Whisper + Barrel shred is 35% pen + 40% pen: 0.6 x 0.65 = 0.39, or 61% armour pen, not 54%.

This means in your 100 Armour example, you reduce them by (unsurprisingly) 61 armour, compared to Youmuu's 60 armour.

Whisper is still the superior choice from 100 armour+

um Percent armor shred is MULTIPLICATIVE** not** ADDITIVE so barrel % is 40% and LW is 35% so you MULTIPLY the two. you are adding them for some reason...

as for Ramuhdo after the 48+ armor pen runes it left the target with THREE armor. basically true dmg. so i just said true dmg. you can get up to 19 armor pen from runes btw.

EDIT: furthermore where are you even getting the .6 from? seems random ... .-. .....

WarlemmingOct 28, 20151 votes

Indeed, percent armor shreds are multiplicative, which is exactly what I did :|

A 40% shred means the target is left with 60% armor A 35% shred means the target is left with 65% armor

When you have both a 35% shred and a 40% shred, they are left with 60% of 65% of armor, which is 39%. A total of 61% armor shred.

How would you even think I'm doing it additive? If I was, I would have said 40+35 = 75.

I honestly can't even figure out how you got 54% in the first place.

SlyfoxkanOct 28, 20151 votes

ah crud. no excuses on my part. math is right. Was just going off of what was discussed in the GP subreddit forums and the dmg i saw in my games so sounded right. BUT Still correct on my original statement. always get youmuu over LW unless its a heavily armored team or something of that nature. if not youre giving up 15% cdr (very important), crit (important obv) and a steroid all for 10 AD and that other form of pen. Not worth. My statement still stands

but my original statement still stands. (will fix math) you still want youmuu against targets lower than 100 health as i first said so getting it before LW is for the best. Youu is more efficient

aítchOct 27, 20151 votes

MY...... GOD

BârdOct 28, 20151 votes

Why waste an item slot? item 3031 oh, and dont forget the trinket

Shroom JunkieOct 28, 20152 votes

Infinity Edge trinket isn't out yet tho its just in the PBE so we can't do that quite yet

KatCraftOct 27, 20152 votes

His barrels ignore 40% armor so last whisper isn't necessary, you butcher tanks anyway. Most players just build a second Infinity edge.

SasogwaOct 27, 20152 votes

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Best build NA

THE MILK BUILD

HayRossOct 27, 201544 votes

"My ship is my soul" -Captian Gangplank "They took my ship, but not my soul" -Classic Gangplank

aítchOct 27, 20155 votes

WHY THE FUCK U LYINGGGGG

blueberrypancakeOct 27, 20155 votes

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aítchOct 27, 20155 votes

STOP FUCKING LYYYYYYIIIIIINNNG

R2D20Oct 27, 20153 votes

I almost spit out my coffee.

aítchOct 27, 20151 votes

good

Tis a nice dayOct 28, 20151 votes

LYYYYYYYYIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGG

WutsKrakenOct 27, 201511 votes

Hey, with 100% crit chance, he doesn't leave anything to chance

insaiyanbaccaOct 26, 20157 votes

100% crit isnt chance at all m80

Samflash3Oct 27, 20154 votes

Exactly. He trusts nothing to chance so he'll take his chances by building enough chance to out-chance chance based champions.

CasterGilgameshOct 27, 20151 votes

yo dawg i heard you like chances so we put chances in yo chances so you can take risk while taking risk

Tis a nice dayOct 28, 20151 votes

Hopefully by chance.

TheSlogsOct 28, 20152 votes

Did you know that if you build one of all the items in the game with crit chance, you have 100% crit chance? That is why you must build item 3078 item 3031 item 3142 item 3072 item 3087 item 3046

BlkGolemOct 27, 20151 votes

Except that even with only trin force he seems to crit almost every time and they're generally aoe with armor shred if he plays barrels well.

GeraldQLOct 27, 20156 votes

He seems to crit almost every time...? I do believe the laws of statistics apply to Gangplank same as with every other champ.

Chaotic ReksOct 27, 201510 votes

nope he's a pirate, rules don't apply to him

GorgannanOct 27, 20151 votes

You're probably thinking the giant crit looking numbers that come from the Trinity proc.

DengedenOct 27, 20151 votes

"We think crit chance is pure RNG"

-You (for some reason)

AgidyneOct 27, 20155 votes

But Crit Chance is PURE RNG unless it's value is either 0% or 100%.

What the fuck do you think RNG means? xD

rinsujoOct 27, 20152 votes

Nope, it's weighted RNG.

AgidyneOct 27, 20151 votes

Yes, the more Crit Chance you get, the more likely you are to Crit.

But it is still RNG.

My Waifu VanillaOct 29, 20151 votes

Exactly because while it may be weighted there is no guarantee I will ever get a crit until 100%. With just IE I could get 0/10 crits or 10/10 crits. While neither are highly probable they do have a slim chance of happening which will always be me getting the first example and my opponent getting the second because RNJesus hates me. I can have 50% crit chance as adc and not get a critical but god damn that Rengar with just ghostblade'a critical chance will manage to get two crits on me in a row.

Earl EulrichOct 27, 20154 votes

PRNG is just a slightly shifted form of RNG, as Computers can´t reproduce any "true" Randomness - but it´s still random and for most purposes the difference is absolutly neglectable.

WarlemmingOct 27, 20151 votes

When he says weighted, he means that Riot specifically programmed it so that if you're getting more or less crits than you should on average, it increases or decreases the chance to crit again accordingly. It's only a minor adjustment, but the weighting is there.

Earl EulrichOct 27, 20151 votes

that´s what PRNG stands for...PseudoRandomNumberGenerator. And it still doesn´t change a thing.

Battlecast SonaOct 28, 20151 votes

Source? I've been playing for a long time and have never seen Riot talk about using weighted RNG. I know DotA2 does with their crit items, but their crit system is also entirely different from ours.

DengedenOct 27, 20151 votes

It means RNG. And considering that your previous instances of (not) crit affect the next ones, it's something you don't need chance to rely on.