Vayne should not be nerfed.

Statikk Succ ·11/17/2016, 8:36:54 PM·8 votes·1,608 views

Vayne should not be nerfed. First of all, she only has this high of a play rate and win rate because she is one of the only if not ONLY ADC who can 1v1/ counter these new assassins. Also, with the new keystone, tanks are very popular and in the meta. And who's the one champion who can reliably melt tanks and survive the many assassins in the meta? It's vayne. She is not overpowered, though I agree she is really strong but that is due to what the meta is. Also, why does vayne get hate for a high play rate and win rate, but Lee Sin also has both of these factors and does not get any hate at all? I really don't think she needs a nerf. Another reason is her early game is still as bad as ever, and she loses almost every lane match up 2v2. Don't nerf a champion who is a reaction to the meta.

32 Comments

zzerakku11/17/2016, 8:41:10 PM7 votes

she also deletes others adc instantly. + her passive + kit is disgusting to deal with.

Big Lincoln11/17/2016, 10:12:19 PM3 votes

vayne isn't OP, she's just a natural counterpick to assassins

vayne isn't OP, she's just a natural counterpick to tanks

isn't that the problem

Akenero11/17/2016, 8:47:41 PM1 votes

Vayne is historically super popular, even when weak, and she has so many tools to stay safe in lane, with her aa>q>e to poke hard, a massive steroid to her as at level 6, and is one of the ONLY champions who cannot be truly built tank against. That all being said, I love the champion, but she's overtuned.

Drehirth11/17/2016, 9:05:09 PM1 votes

balance is all relative.. rammus was op after adc update not because he was suddenly stronger on his own, but because he was stronger because of what was being played so much and was relatively stronger than other champions all of the sudden.... and he was nerfed... vayne can handle assassins better than other adcs which has become something very important with more assassins... so same thing for her

not only that, but you also forget that adcs in particular are even more relative than other champions because they are always against another adc. They take turns getting nerfed because one is too strong, and it just so happens quite a few of her counters are weaker than before. This puts her over the top by far relatively speaking....

put simply in the circle of going around nerfing each adc one by one it's vayne's turn for sure...

GULAG 4 U11/17/2016, 10:09:08 PM1 votes

ah well expect some downvotes...

Rustling Bush11/17/2016, 8:40:31 PM1 votes

" one of the only if not ONLY ADC who can 1v1/ counter these new assassins."

your, your serious right? either way isn't the point of an ASSASSIN is to worm their way into a fight and or pick off the SQUISHY champion. balance is like a game of rock paper scisors, tanks > assassins > ADC > Tanks

CrazyBear198711/18/2016, 6:45:19 AM1 votes

Something should be done. Call it what you want nerf/rework/balance, but in her current state she offers very little counterplay.

Her weakness are easily fixed with items. She is strong no doubt, lets not kid ourselves, she is far from balanced in my opinion.

Could she be next on the chopping block? maybe.

Medler said in 6.24 they would look into it.

Nothing is sacred. Shaco and Katarina are proof of this now.

GastonBarnacles11/17/2016, 8:46:46 PM1 votes

Less damage or less mobility/ utility.

90% of champs can't fight her yet she can chase down almost anyone due the the passive and low cd tumble.