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I Thought the Boards Were Exaggerating About Tank Yi

Supreme Senpai69··110 votes·8,098 views

Before I start, this was the end-scores of the enemy team: Jhin- 3/6 Riven- 5/11 Karthus- 8/7 (He lost lane pretty hard, but his ult always secured a kill or two.) Morgana- 2/13/18 Master Yi- 22/9

So yeah. Every lane got stomped pretty hard and we were winning until of a sudden, the Yi got sated with rageblade. He then picked up over a dozen kills and built a Titanic Hydra and our towers fell like butter. We couldn't even get there in time to stop him, full HP towers would fall in just a few seconds. I heard that CC stopped him but when he ults you can't inflict CC on him and it's crazy difficult to hit him with a skillshot. In the second you need to click on him to use a targeted ability, he presses Q, making him unable to be targeted and then you die and his ult lasts even longer.

We had a 1k gold lead and a 6 kill lead at the very end of the match, and up until Yi became sated, the score was something like 40-20 in our favor. I always knew Yi could carry but at the time he had only his jungle item and Rageblade (he ended with more, but at that point it didn't matter.) Why does this dude hit so hard but is so hard to kill? How do you beat him since apparently CC doesn't do the trick? Should i start banning Yi instead of Xin? I haven't seen a Xin yet, but that's only because I've been banning him lol

160 Comments

63536895_DEL50 votes

If a Yi actually got cc'ed to the point where it was a problem for him he would just buy item 3140 and then continue to buttfuck the enemy team.

Akesgeroth11 votes

And then he can turn it into item 3139 for even more damage and lifesteal.

Drehirth37 votes

we should buff fiddlesticks, ever see yi get feared with his ult on? he runs like halfway across the map in the other direction and wastes it lol XD

EvilRabbitt5 votes

Note to self: Support fiddlesticks or shaco if enemy team picks Yi. Fear me Master Wicky Whack.

TonyTonyMordecai4 votes

I remember a fiddle bot doing that to me every time I had ult on. Most annoying and funniest bot match in a while

Subject 533 votes

"Use CC on the tank."

Because mid, top, adc and late game support don'r exist and you can totes mick-scroatch focus a tank with those in mind.

Troll for Trump10 votes

Because yi does more damage than them, and will destroy your carries in seconds if you do not have the ability to cc him. If you focus him, the others will destroy you, if you focus the others, YI will sweep all of you up from the damage done by the others

Dominick Destine17 votes

[{quoted}](name=Revan Senpai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cpLypPAZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-04T23:35:42.246+0000)

when he ults you can't inflict CC on him

u wot m8

Supreme Senpai699 votes

I just see a message saying "Cannot be slowed!" or something similar

ModWulf Helhammer25 votes

That's the only CC that can't affect him in ult. Every other from still does

Knalxz9 votes

He can still buy QSS if cc does become a problem for him.

Skias5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cpLypPAZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-04T23:36:36.856+0000)

u wot m8

He means slows and attack speed slows. They don't affect him in ult.

DarkRitual5 votes

Must note that Exhaust damage reduction still goes through.

Nebuul5 votes

Except for his true damage, which cannot be reduced.

Dominick Destine8 votes

{quoted}

He means slows and attack speed slows. They don't affect him in ult.

I am aware of that, however in terms of classification for disables; That constitutes less than 1/5th of available disables that affect him (Ex: Fear, stun, knock-airborne, displacement, root, snare, charm, taunt, polymorph, etc.)

Saying you cannot disable Yi in ult is like saying Shen is 100% invulnerable to all damage in his W.

Skias7 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cpLypPAZ,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2016-03-05T02:43:26.857+0000)

I am aware of that, however in terms of classification for disables; That constitutes less than 1/5th of available disables that affect him (Ex: Fear, stun, knock-airborne, displacement, root, snare, charm, taunt, polymorph, etc.)

Saying you cannot disable Yi in ult is like saying Shen is 100% invulnerable to all damage in his W.

You cannot disable Yi as long as the one good QSS item is an AD one. A smart Yi builds mecurial and becomes an unCCable god.

Xonra4 votes

{quoted}

You cannot disable Yi as long as the one good QSS item is an AD one. A smart Yi builds mecurial and becomes an unCCable god.

Can't forget the fun of a Morg blackshield before he goes in, or having a item 3222 on the support. Might as well just not cast CC on him.

Sypher The Poro9 votes

I must say, your team comp wasn't very well fitted to deal with him. The best bet you guys had was to use Vi ult on him followed up by a Brand stun and hope your ADC has killed him by then.

Although I wouldn't call his build Tank Yi, more of bruiser. MasterYi item 3931 item 3748 item 3142 item 3071 item 3156 item 3124

I do agree with you. Yi could build AP and still carry a game right now. :/

Vorazun10 votes

Let's...let's not relive the era of AP Yi, shall we? That shit was bloody painful.

Supreme Senpai694 votes

He was last pick, there wasn't much to be done with that. We did the best we could with what we had and we demolished the enemy team up until Yi got sated. It sorta feels like the matches nowadays are decided in champ select rather than on the rift

Cosmic Warper8 votes

I love it when people try to justify unhealthy champions by saying " just cc him/her it's so easy". If the ONLY way you can counterplay a champion is to use an ability that counters basically 99% of champions to begin with, then it isn't healthy counterplay. Why do you think Riot has been straying away from such stale forms of interactivity? Look at the past few recent champions and reworks: Jhin Kindred Graves Darius TahmKench Gangplank Poppy Illaoi , they all have some form of ability you can either dodge, play around, or punish. They all have different ways to deal with them. CCing a champion shouldn't be the only way to counter said champion when it's a fundamental gameplay mechanic that can be applied to all champions. It shows just how unhealthy a champion is when they cannot be stopped by means that aren't conventional.

Canidae7 votes

Yi's ult makes him immune to slows, he can still be stunned and affected by other hard cc (but U have to be aware of his CD on his alpha strike, which is his main form of gap closer)

Also, if U guys were ahead how come your team had no dragons? An important way to deal with Master Yi is to slow down his sated stacking by taking down towers and controlling objectives.

Having hard cc, an actual tank, and/or a sustain support would help vs Yi (though I personally dislike playing against one as Soraka until mid/late game) A good Udyr wrecks Yi, and vs Xin it's a farm/skill match-up

Skias5 votes

{quoted}

Yi's ult makes him immune to slows, he can still be stunned and affected by other hard cc (but U have to be aware of his CD on his alpha strike, which is his main form of gap closer)

Having hard cc, an actual tank, and/or a sustain support would help vs Yi (though I personally dislike playing against one as Soraka until mid/late game) A good Udyr wrecks Yi, and vs Xin it's a farm/skill match-up

QSS makes him practically unstoppable.

INoble KnightI2 votes

And tank does nothing against true damage

DarkRitual1 votes

Only health stacking can be built against true damage. It isn't amazing, but it's the only thing that helps with how quickly he deals damage.

INoble KnightI4 votes

I've had Yi destroy my 6k health in 2-3 seconds

DarkRitual4 votes

Nami laughs at his ult and QSS. Neither stop knockups. Nami then cries when he comes down and does 1900 damage in 0.85 seconds.

SwiftKitten887 votes

its possible to beat a bronze 3 yi with sated devourer and ragreblade as long as you have 3v1 him with diamond+ mechanics and are all in a skype call for proper communication...

i don't see the issue here...

/sarsasm

Veridìan6 votes

And then you remember, yi also has a team

Shifune5 votes

I like how people keep calling it "tank" Yi when he is clearly building multiple damage items. People need to get their terminology straight.

Xonra3 votes

{quoted}

I like how people keep calling it "tank" Yi when he is clearly building multiple damage items. People need to get their terminology straight.

I think they are referring it to it as tank because after devourer and rageblade, he goes full tank and still melts your team needing no other damage items. Plus the fact that because he is so tanky he just freely tower dives. Or the fun of him just walking up to a turret with no minions and being able to destroy it before anyone can get to him.

Things like that tend to frustrate people, and I get why they are calling it tank, but is more "bruiser" or "juggernaut" Yi.

Calabok4 votes

Polymorph him, wall him, intercept him, golden statue him, etc

Supreme Senpai6912 votes

Is the only way to beat him having a Lulu? o.o

He chose after I did, so it didn't really matter anyway I guess.

ThatHaleState2 votes

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Is the only way to beat him having a Lulu? o.o

He chose after I did, so it didn't really matter anyway I guess.

Only hard CC works. So any slows wont affect him. But yeah, if you have a team with no hard cc you might as well just wait in the fountain. Otherwise, you have to hard cc and 5 man his ass. But Yi has crazy outplay potential and then its up to how good the Yi is

Hard Penetrator4 votes

Only thing I dislike about Yi is how I can't 1v1 him as full build malph, he just bends me over and cannot be slowed. My def is useless, my hp is useless, my att slow is useless and my ult must be used to jump the wall or it also be useless.

ComradeFiora4 votes

I love to see people defend this new Yi build, its a bit on the OP side when paired with a morgana supp. Enough said, end of argument, rito is going to "fix" it eventually and you Master Yi loving, teemo worshiping, hate spewing people cant do anything about it.

Take the loss guys, Yi is becoming a "problem" for some players and a nerf on him, or on the items in this new build will eventually send him back into a shady part of the rift once again, to say hello to a man named Yorick. When a Yi builds rageblade and devourer, and doesn't get counterjungled CONSTANTLY, its gg for the other team. That is not a fun experience.

Leanus Crain3 votes

The CC you were trying to inflict was a slow, when we're talking CC we mean hard CC like a snare, stun, fear, polymorph that kind of deal. Also I would chose Xin over Yi because Xin is far worse to play against, trust me.

Nar7ia4 votes

I disagree.I believe Yi is much better pick than Xin.Considering both built as bruiser aka 2-3 offensive and 2-3 defensive items , they can be killed pretty quickly by adc/apc lategame when cc'ed and locked down.However , Yi has his ult which gives him massive MS/AS boost , makes him immune to slows , he has Q to become untargetable and close gaps which makes its really hard and sometimes even impossible to kite/duel him without hard cc whereas Xin only has his E for closing gaps and he heavily relies on healing from his W to sustain himself in fights ; its what makes him tanky as well.Xin will get kited easily lategame and hard cc will completely nullify his ability self heal from his W which will largely reduce his tankiness as well.

SoMNia3 votes

item 3931 item 3124 item 3748 "Tank"

People should stop saying things like this.

Anyway, CC does work on him. The only kind that doesn't is slow. Other than not trying to slow him, you basically have to CC him while his Q is on cooldown. Force him to use it, then root/stun him.

Knalxz2 votes

He builds those then whatever keeps him live. item 3065 item 3110 item 3083 as follow ups, would just be a swift kick to the dick.

Pokku2 votes

{quoted}

Force him to use it, then

...then you're dead.

SoMNia1 votes

Please. Yi cannot one-shot you. Just don't panic.

Akenero2 votes

{quoted}

Please. Yi cannot one-shot you. Just don't panic.

This is a lie. 2 seconds under my tower with 5k HP sejuani... And I died

Pokku2 votes

It depends on which champion you play. If you play a squishy one, Alpha Strike + AA = kill. However, today I played Sejuani and got my ult on him a few times :) He was quite a bad Yi, I must say.

notmebuthim3 votes

Yeah I had a game a lot like that. Our team smashed everyone, then enemy yi got 2 kills and..... well.... 10 minutes later he had 30 kills and 1 v 5'd our team.

TheOvermind2 votes

Twisted fate generates point and click stuns every 3-4 seconds. Rammus with full cdr can taunt every 7 secs ( taunt lasts 2.2 secs) and there is the lockdown experts Leona and nautilus

Knalxz4 votes

So you blow all this CC on a tank who most likely took all of your damage abilities as well leaving the other 4 of his teammates to do whatever with you since you have nothing to fight back with.

TheOvermind4 votes

Oh Hell no, I agree that Yi requires way too much cc and team effort to be dealt with , given how fast he is with his ulti, the fact that he cannot be slowed, cannot be bursted because he will negate the dmg with his meditate, and cannot be cced easily because of how easy it is for him to dodge projectiles with his alphha strike. The fact that you HAVE to pick lockdown champions and direct all of their attention to Yi during teamfights or suffer teh consequenses is completely dumb. OR if they pick Yi into a team with little and non effective CC you done for. No Yi is problematic. Yi always had a kit that was made to slaughter teams, with insane damage. It's just that ever since the introduction of Sated devourer he was able to output insane amounts of damage with just 2 items( devourer+ rageblade or Bork) and then full tank to survive long enough to slaughter everyone. If you look at all of the other sated champions( WW, Jax, SHyvanna, Xin Zhao) They suck in teamfights becuase they have no means of dodging CC, (except maybe Shyvanna who was always the tanky frontliner that just deals more damage now but is less tanky) like Yi does, Yet they all beat Yi in straight up duels. Thats why Jax, XIn , WW they all stick to splitpushing, rather than teamfighting.

ghood4life1 votes

I'll let you in on a secret to stop us Master Yis.

Invade him. Make his jungle yours. Ez

Knalxz3 votes

Any good team who'd be putting their eggs in the YI basket will ward his jungle if they saw you pick a counter jungler and be ready on responses.

It's the samething that happened back during Feral flare. Just last long enough for your jungler to get feed and end the game.

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