Morgana's spellshield now only blocks just one spell?

StellarÐusk··17 votes·6,555 views
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I've just finished a game where I played Morgana, knowing the spellshields are now supposed to block only one spell, but ignoring it might have changed morg's e. And I noticed it just blocks one spell and it doesn't absorb any more damage from any other sources. So in my game there was a Sejuani going for my Tristana, I spellshielded her immediately and Sejuani engaged her with her Q, then she did the rest of her spells on her. It did block sej's Q, but her other spells went through the shield, dealing the damage and cc to her instead of my shield. The rest of my shield was just hanging there, it clearly had at least 200 hp left and it was completely useless against every magic damage coming to Tristana. After the game I went to read the exact description of Morgana's e and it says this :

Places a protective barrier around an allied champion, absorbing magical damage and disables until penetrated or the shield dissipates.

So the shield is supposed to work against any magic damage I said to myself, since it says it needs to be penetrated or needs to dissipates to not work anymore. It does not mention "Blocks damage from ONE source of damage or cc".

So I went to look at the patch (7.19) where the spellshield changes were in and it did not mention anything about Morgana's e. It only mentionned this :

AFFECTED STUFF Sivir’s E - Spell Shield, Nocturne’s W - Shroud of Darkness, Banshee’s Veil, Edge of Night

I just need to know if this is a legit change or if it might be a bugg with the spellshield changes, because I really like playing Morgana and I felt like this change was really big in that game :/

Thanks in advance for the answers.

43 Comments

RiotRiot MapleNectar25 votes

I saw a weird Morgana power shift with 7.20 that I hadn't been able to pin down. This seems very likely to be the culprit assuming this happens consistently

RavenHusky13 votes

When you guys were adjusting spellshields, you didn't do anything to Lux's shield by mistake, did you? The duration of the first stack of Lux's shield isn't resetting when the projectile returns to her.

LostFr0st10 votes

Probably all double shields and older champ shields were affected.

From what I've seen on the boards and Reddit the "unnintended affected" list is as follows: Lux Mordekaiser Morgana Rakan

IDK about: Diana Karma

CleverCactus1 votes

I kinda wish only Morde could see his own shield.

LostFr0st1 votes

Yeah. That wouldn't be a lack counterplay at all. [sg-lulu]

But real talk: it definitely shouldn't be plastered on his main Hp bar to translate the units for the enemy. Should stay as random resource bar for now.

DeathBurst2 votes

You can't reasonably say both things at the same time. If you argue against the "hidden" shield, for lack of clarity, you can't complain about the UI doing the conversion for the enemy. It's like saying "Yeah, I understand clarity is important, but still I don't want too much clarity for my opponents".

LostFr0st1 votes

I was referring to the bug mentioned in this thread (a byproduct of the spell shield tweaks), which makes Mordekaiser shield show up on his Hp bar.

For someone unfamiliar with Mord, it's WAY easier to tell how much shield he has when it's there next to his Hp bar than when it's Mord's resource bar which they have to click on Mord and read the value of.

Of course it doesn't "matter" but it makes it easier. That's what I meant.

DeathBurst1 votes

Yes, I had understood what you meant, but it SHOULD be easy. If Morde is balanced around his kit baiting newbies because information is difficult to access, he will never be allowed to be a truly viable champ.

LostFr0st1 votes

Yep, definitely. But, lets not discuss semantics. That's no fun :/ I'm really glad Swain's VGU was announced a while back and I'm hella hyped to see him.

I have my fingers crossed for Mord to be announced next. The bug list continues to grow so hopefully he's next.

The big thing with Mord (and Swain) is the communication on counterplay. They are balanced around it more than likely and this bug makes his life just that little bit harder when opponents aren't paying full attention. Not healthy, as you stated above.

The Yetii Rider4 votes

Heard someone complain about getting Thresh hooked while they had Black Shield up. Can't confirm, was soloing drag at the time.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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Heard someone complain about getting Thresh hooked while they had Black Shield up. Can't confirm, was soloing drag at the time.

can confirm...

Speerhausen4 votes

That makes a Morgana main rather upset. I wasn't certain if it was just my imagination that her shield had been nerfed though.

koshkyra1 votes

I just lost a game because of this as morgana mid lul

Xion The XIV1 votes

yea I noticed this when I was playing Morg mid and Top. I found it weird that my shield never lost any health on it. I thought it might just be a visual bug like the one you can get on Aram where your HP bar is black and you can't see any champions on Tab. But apparently it's not a bug.

Iręlía2 votes

Good, it was stupid hard to pick an adc because of it.

Paroe2 votes

Morgana has a MAGIC Shield, not a spell shield. Magic shields are standard shields for magic damage. Spell shields work on all abilities.

Chances are the sejauni just killed the shield. Her ult does hurt ya know.

StellarÐusk4 votes

Yeah I understand. But talking damage, Sej DIDN'T break my shield, my e blocked her q, yes, but her other spells dealt damage to her health bar and not my shield. My shield clearly had 300 hp left.

Krinu1 votes

Just for clarity - Morg's shield has two effects.

  1. It prevents all disables from occurring while it's active. This is supposed to be unconditional.
  2. It absorbs magic damage, breaking when the cap is reached.

If you're facing a physical-only lane, you don't ever need to rank up the shield because they'll never break it before the duration expires.

The Yetii Rider2 votes

Uh...yeah. But there aren't any physical only lanes.

Zed's Contempt for the Weak is magic damage.

Talon only deals physical but he doesn't really have much CC for you to absorb.

Yasuo's Sweeping Blade is magic damage.

Vayne is the only marksman in the game who can't deal magic damage.

I don't think there's a single physical-only support.

MorganFreemanBot2 votes

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Vayne is the only marksman in the game who can't deal magic damage.

Draven is a thing.

koshkyra2 votes

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The Yetii Rider2 votes

{quoted}

Draven is a thing.

True, I did forget him. But to emphasize this:

Ezreal Essence Flux, Arcane Shift, Trueshot Barrage all deal magic damage Corki Hextech Shrapnel Shells, Phosphorous Bomb, Valkyrie, Special Delivery, Gatling Gun and Missile Barrage all deal magic damage Tristana Rocket Jump, Explosive Charge (passive), Buster Shot all deal magic damage MissFortune Make it Rain deals magic damage Graves Smokescreen deals magic damage Ashe Enchanted Crystal Arrow deals magic damage Caitlyn .90 Caliber Net deals magic damage Jhin Captive Audience deals magic damage Jinx Flame Chompers! deals magic damage Kalista Sentinel passive Soul-Marked deals magic damage Kindred Wolf's Frenzy deals magic damage KogMaw Caustic Spittle, Bio-Arcane Barrage, Void Ooze, Living Artillery all deal magic damage Lucian Ardent Blaze deals magic damage Quinn is completely physical Sivir is completely phsyical Twitch is completely physical Varus Blighted Quiver and Chain of Corruption deal magic damage Xayah is completely physical, which is honestly kind of surprising given her theme.

So that's six marksmen total that cannot break Morgana's Black Shield, out of 20 marksmen total. It's still not a great plan to leave Morgana's Black Shield at rank 1 when you're in bot lane.

Krinu1 votes

The reason it's a bad idea bot lane has less to do with marksman and more to do with their supports.

I'll leave it at R1 if I'm mid versus an assassin since A. most of them don't do quite enough magic damage to break it and B. I don't have a magic damage lane opponent sitting next to them.

DariusDemiurge2 votes

This better be a bug and not a nerf to my lover. Or an error from the poster.

StellarÐusk1 votes

I tried to make the "bug" happen again in a custom with some friends. I did not try against Sejuani, but morg's e worked normally on other champs, so it might have been a thing with precise conditions.

Khristophoros1 votes

If anything changed about Morg's shield it's a bug. But most likely what happened was that the enemy dealt enough magic damage to break the shield. Once they break it, then the disable protection is gone too.

StellarÐusk4 votes

But the thing is, she didn't break the shield entirely, my Tristana still had some of my shield remaining but she dealt the damage to her health bar instead of my shield. What happened was Sej's Q was blocked entirely, but then her other spells dealt damage to her health bar and not my shield.

Khristophoros1 votes

{quoted}

But the thing is, she didn't break the shield entirely, my Tristana still had some of my shield remaining but she dealt the damage to her health bar instead of my shield. What happened was Sej's Q was blocked entirely, but then her other spells dealt damage to her health bar and not my shield.

Did trist have another magic shield like Hexdrinker/Maw? That one doesn't block CC.

StellarÐusk1 votes

She didn't have maw or hex, but someone wrote in here that sej's w does physical damage, so it might have been that. I forgot it did. But still her e is magic damage. Gosh this is weird.

Khristophoros3 votes

{quoted}

She didn't have maw or hex, but someone wrote in here that sej's w does physical damage, so it might have been that. I forgot it did. But still her e is magic damage. Gosh this is weird.

I thought Morg's shield was supposed to block CC regardless of the damage type dealt by the ability. Like Ashe can't slow you while you have a Morg shield on you.

StellarÐusk1 votes

It is supposed to block every disable and magic damage if we read the description of the spell. Which is not the case anymore considering what I saw.

Places a protective barrier around an allied champion, absorbing magical damage and disables until penetrated or the shield dissipates.

Bisaknosp1 votes

sejuani w deals physical damage

StellarÐusk1 votes

I forgot about that. Now it all makes sense xD

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

The real question is did the W still slow? Did her E stun her?

koshkyra1 votes

The real question is why does sejuanis W do physical damage

OyddAWqJ5r1 votes

I mean, an ice flail can either be interpreted as an elemental magical attack or just as a physical chunk of ice smashing their face.

Kinda how Ashe's basic attacks function too. Though her ult arrow is magical. Dunno man.

Khristophoros1 votes

This is what I should have posted in the first place:

I suggest that you do a proper bug test. If you find that it works differently from what is stated on the tooltip and you can reproduce the bug consistently, submit a ticket about it.

As a former QA game tester, I can tell you that a single anecdote from one game is probably not going to get any potential bug looked into or fixed. The best way to get a developer to fix a bug:

  1. Confirm with controlled testing without a doubt that the bug exists, and make sure you reference some kind of ingame tooltip or official literature that states it should work differently than what your test shows.

  2. Detail the steps to reproduce the bug consistently and provide the percentage of attempts that these steps will cause the bug to occur (x/10 tries is sufficient)

  3. Send a support ticket with all the relevant information. Even better if you can include video and/or screenshots.

StellarÐusk1 votes

Yep, I'll go and check that in the practice tool.

Mordepool1 votes

WTF why the nerf

SwiftKitten881 votes

i have actually noticed this myself... it cost me a few deaths...

plz fix this asap

StellarÐusk1 votes

Was it against Sejuani too? I don't understand this bug really, the whole game my shield felt useless against the ennemy, I also tried the bug again in a custom, but the shield worked normally for some reason.

Dameshi1 votes

This explains some things. I thought I was going crazy, but the other night, every time Syndra would E me while shield was up, I got stunned. I guess it was blocking the knock back but not the stun.

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