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Guinsoo's Increases On-Hit Damage 33%? How Bad Could It Be?

McKeifus·5/5/2016, 4:41:53 PM·1 votes·1,164 views

With everything else Guinsoo's had, with a slight increase in cost it now increases on-hit damage from certain champs 33%, is accessible outside of the jungle, and doesn't required any farming. It is an easy first item that builds very smoothly...so is it any surprise it is going to be abused by Varus, Teemo, Kayle, etc? Especially Varus. The amount of damage he is outputting now just off aa is quite frankly ridiculous, plus he scales off the AP. And with only 6 stacks now to get there, Varus is going to become King of Bot Lane, along with any other ranged champs with on-hit(can't think of all of them at the moment).

The Devourer enchant was broken before, when it was only gated by requiring smite. Now we're going to see champs OP, and then nerfed around another broken item. Then those champs are going to suck, so we're going to nerf the item again. Then we're going to have some champs that are out of balance again because they were balanced around that item. Why does this keep happening, Riot? Don't you playtest or make checklists of how items might effect certain champs? Can't you see that certain things just do not belong in the game?

Edit: It's even worse...+50%!

14 Comments

Maikal5/5/2016, 6:59:12 PM2 votes

Where did you get 33% from...? First hit is 100% on hit damage, 2nd hit is 200% on hit damage because of the phantom hit procing on hit effects an additional time at full strength. That's 300% on hit damage in 2 hits instead of 200% in 2 hits. That's a 50% increase.

Also being gated behind 6 auto attacks, 3.6k gold, and shitty gold efficiency without stacks is really significant. It might be unhealthy on hybrid champs that use both the AD and AP like Kayle, Kog'maw, and maybe jax, but it's either mediocre with really strong on hits (Vayne) or crap otherwise.

Zerolera5/5/2016, 4:45:01 PM1 votes

Coming from a Kayle main - this item is a step down from the previous guinsoo. Yes the phantom hit is nice but it's so damn expensive, the stats it gives are crap, the per stack stats aren't that hot either. Normally on Kayle you would always get Guinsoo after Nashor's Tooth, I'm not even sure that it's the optimal build path anymore with how ridiculously expensive it is.

kagepaladin5/5/2016, 4:51:29 PM1 votes

my friend me and him duo ranked in 6 games with me top 5 of them he played vayne jungle with bloodrazor+guinsoo he carried and went positive all 5 games.