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Its great how everything but assassins are basically worthless now

Master Artoria··1 votes·945 views

Its always fun playing a late game champion like Irelia , only to get bursted down in an instant by assassins cause Riot has no idea how to balance :/

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The Sword Saint2 votes

Irelia is an early midgame champion.

Master Artoria1 votes

In what way? she is Item depended and is suppose to be a late game carry

redniwediS1 votes

She and many other old late game champions are being pushed to the mid and early game. It's the same story for them as it is for her; if you build tanky enough to survive actual late game damage then you don't have assassination potential, and if you build to have that potential you blow up when caught.

She can carry in the late game, but she is no longer a late game champion. You can thank Riot's push toward late game power for that.

Master Artoria1 votes

I really wish we could go back to season 4/5 when this game was fun :/

B00B001 votes

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I really wish we could go back to season 4/5 when this game was fun :/

you mean the assassin and tank meta? lol you just basically ripped yourself apart here.

Master Artoria1 votes

Only played the tail end of season 4, so It didn't matter what the meta was, I was still going to be garbage and yes, the tank meta, a meta i happen to like.

The Sword Saint1 votes

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In what way? she is Item depended and is suppose to be a late game carry

She has always spiked hard with one or two damage items and then fallen off like a rock. It's just how she is designed as a melee champion without any real scalings. Her base damages plus triforce is enough to hurt squishies until the point in the game where they are capable of surviving the initial burst, and then all she does is die if she doesn't build 3 defensive items at least. Additionally the level of peel irelia needs to deal with the later game game goes gets pretty silly.

An irelia needs to snowball in lane or in midgame and end quickly off of that, if she doesn't then she becomes a stunbot just like leesin.

Master Artoria1 votes

Nope, back in season 4/5 she was the late game carry god. Its only since season 6 that shes become like that since Riot doesn't want games to go for 40+ min.

The Sword Saint1 votes

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Nope, back in season 4/5 she was the late game carry god. Its only since season 6 that shes become like that since Riot doesn't want games to go for 40+ min.

... No she's always been this way, since many many season ago. It's a consequence of her kit, which has remained almost completely unchanged for many seasons.

She very briefly was overtuned not too long ago when rageblade was op as hell since she was able to abuse that, but that's an outlier and was promptly nerfed.

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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... No she's always been this way, since many many season ago. It's a consequence of her kit, which has remained almost completely unchanged for many seasons.

She very briefly was overtuned not too long ago when rageblade was op as hell since she was able to abuse that, but that's an outlier and was promptly nerfed.

Season 4 which was basically a midlane duel of katarina and akali which determines a whole game lulz. TOTALLY fun

I am Pacman2 votes

Irelia is a mid game champ.

Triforce and another item is like her strongest point in the game and when she is most effective at carrying.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

what, assassins are very weak right now

maybe after their remake...

Master Artoria1 votes

Oce gets it Today, its fucking ridicule what happened in this patch

Revali1 votes

instant

wha~ you mean an assassin killing you, actually assassinating is riot having no idea how to balance?

plus they changed most of the ones that instagib you anyway to have a slower burst pattern

Master Artoria1 votes

Yea they should instantly burst a adc, not a 3000+ HP Irelia

bad arcade kitty1 votes

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wha~ you mean an assassin killing you, actually assassinating is riot having no idea how to balance?

plus they changed most of the ones that instagib you anyway to have a slower burst pattern

yes, because assassins are not supposed to instantly kill bruiser champions like irelia

Dehitay1 votes

I love how many people forget what purpose tanks serve. As a tank main, I have a ball of a time when Riot suddenly makes assassins all popular, and then people who aren't used to assassins get utterly confused when I absorb their burst and then beat the crap out of them for being mean to me.

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