Riot how are you going to deal with those that just throw games that are autofilled because it does not affect their main role much? ANY number of games like this will hurt the entire team that did NOT get auto filled as they will lose FULL LP while the Troll will lose little.
You say you will be watching players for this and adjust their main roll LP loss but ANY number of games where they lose less is toxic to those of us that got our main role.
Metal Janna5 votesAnd if there wasn't autofill splash, what motive would they have to play their best? This is the exact issue splash LP is meant to address.
GFREEMEN5 votesCurrently if you are Autofilled and you lose you lose full LP
If they make this change and you are autofilled and you lose you lose little LP for your main.
There will be MORE trolling/ Inting with the new setup because it cost them little.
They need to make it cost you full LP to stop Inting or at the VERY least very close to full LP loss.
The advantage of Autofill is getting placed in lower tiers then your main.
BestPlayerAlive1 votesCurrently if you are Autofilled and you lose you lose full LP
If they make this change and you are autofilled and you lose you lose little LP for your main.
There will be MORE trolling/ Inting with the new setup because it cost them little.
They need to make it cost you full LP to stop Inting or at the VERY least very close to full LP loss.
The advantage of Autofill is getting placed in lower tiers then your main.
All this seems like the exact way it will go down. I barely play anymore and can see the potential for abuse.
All riot cares about is making money, keep the people playing even if the game is bad because then maybe we can take some of their money for worthless pixels.
Moonscourge2 votesCurrently if you are Autofilled and you lose you lose full LP
If they make this change and you are autofilled and you lose you lose little LP for your main.
There will be MORE trolling/ Inting with the new setup because it cost them little.
They need to make it cost you full LP to stop Inting or at the VERY least very close to full LP loss.
The advantage of Autofill is getting placed in lower tiers then your main.
This is operating on the thought that people WANT to lose. Even if their loss is diminished, losing LP is always annoying and hardly anybody ever goes into a game wanting to lose "because it doesn't matter"
The Bad Touch2 votes[{quoted}](name=Snake of Avarice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cMU1NeM8,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-22T03:56:43.643+0000)
This is operating on the thought that people WANT to lose. Even if their loss is diminished, losing LP is always annoying and hardly anybody ever goes into a game wanting to lose "because it doesn't matter"
But you lose more LP wasting an extra 25 minutes of valuable gaming time trying to win 3 lp than you would losing 3 lp in 15 then winning 18-20 lp in 25.
Mafia LeBlanc4 votesIf someone mains mid where they gain or lose 18 lp per game, they play 10 games in a row as mid, and now are autofilled to support, where even if they win, it's only +3 lp to their mid lane score.
If the auto filled support isn't winning by 20 minutes and his team just made a hard throw, he will be FAR less likely to try his hardest to pull for a 45 minute win, rather than try to end the game as quickly as possible, by a few 'oops lag sry guys' mistakes to get back to games that 'actually matter'. Oh, of course, you'll have the more vocal trolls who will make this intention clear, but more often you'll just have people soft-trolling and just happening to be 1v1'ing an enemy when baron is up and all are mia for no apparent reason, that kind of thing.
Game quality is going to take a massive drop if there are any autofilled players in all elo's but the highest 0.1% because people just simply won't give a shit if the game takes longer, since these games literally don't matter to them. I expect afk's and trolls to massively increase after this 'improvement' is implemented.
rtbf2216514121 votesAnd if there wasn't autofill splash, what motive would they have to play their best? This is the exact issue splash LP is meant to address.
Griefers will grief no matter what. In fact, the fact it takes Riot so long to investigate griefers makes it more likely to happen. As long as entitled brats don't get what they want, it will happen and Riot has to do something to stop them by punishing faster or harder.
Syrile4 votesOr we could remove autofill and ban trolls? Seems like the right way to deal with it I think.
The Bad Touch1 votes[deleted]
zenux1 votesYou are what is wrong with the league community.
Naalith1 votesThey said if you consistently lose in your off-lane (where you should be matched against other people of that skill level, mind you) the splash will increase from a little bonus/subtraction and start hitting your main role as hard as the off-role you are currently filled as.
So if people throw games enough times, their main role will be affected.
5050BS1 votesI was thinking this too. Its why the FF@15 was added so you could give up on a game and get to one you will win in knowing it was a loss. If I can skip games that will lose less to my main then throw the game to get to the games on my main.
Riot really didnt think this through at all. They dont understand their player base it seems.