Could we make Ardent Censer work on minions?

Forever··3 votes·1,006 views

For those times I would rather support my promoted minion than my ADC? :P http://i.imgur.com/lWb9wUa.jpg

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Archon X3 votes

it would make alistar too OP.

Pika3107 votes

It did* make Alistar OP. It used to work on minions, it got nerfed so that it doesn't anymore.

Krinu1 votes

It was fine on Soraka; doing 10% max HP damage to herself to inflict, at most, 240 damage to an opponent wasn't really a problem. Alistar, though... yeah. That caused issues. Maybe if they made it only affect one minion target per spellcast?

Pika3103 votes

Perhaps, but the main issue is that Rito doesn't want the item to be viable. A very limited number of supports can build it and a very limited number of champions can actually make use of it. Those limitations aside, it's very gold inefficient, it's self-stats are highly underwhelming and the passive itself isn't really noticeable.

The item is a noob-trap and that's exactly what Rito intended for it to be. RIOT LOGIC

Krinu1 votes

It's 105% gold efficient before you consider the passive, and on a character like Soraka, that passive has a pretty huge uptime... not to mention being a pretty large steroid for teamfights with her ult.

Is it a rush build for every carry? No. But it does well on everybody that focuses on or utilized attack speed, like Jinx, Vayne, Kayle, etc.

Marthian1 votes

It's a Niche item, of course there's a limited number of champions that can use it well. (Fail to see what makes you think Riot doesn't want it to be viable, if that was the case, Sona wouldn't be buying it all the time.)

As for gold efficiency, your statement is completely false: It's gold efficient, and becomes much more so when allies are buffed.

Gold Value 40 ability power = 870 Gold 100% mana regen = 720 Gold 10% cooldown reduction = 317 Gold 8% movement speed = 316 Gold Total Gold Value = 2223 Gold Statistical Value Per Ally Buffed

15% Attack speed = 450 Gold 30 on-hit damage = 600 Gold Total Stat Value (1 ally buffed) = 3273 Gold

Gold Efficiency

Ardent Censer is 105.86% gold efficient, without its passive. Ardent Censer's gold efficiency is further increased by 50% per ally buffed, up to a maximum of 305.86% gold efficiency.

The item is extremely cheap, thus the low stats (although %movement is amazing for a support)

And finally Ardent Censor has the same issue that auras do: Powerful but unappreciated (I've definitely noticed the difference between AC and non-AC.)

Apparently, Plat+ players are noobs then because Sona and Soraka's most popular (and highest win-rate) builds ALL have Ardent Censor.

Hugify1 votes

I doubt It'll happen,Meddler Isin't the biggest fan of healers,and It's pretty understandable

Duke Anax1 votes

Meddler wasn't a fan of healer, because he didn't know ho to do them right, he changed his mind with Soraka rework.

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