Both pairs are similar items with the same price and a common build component, wouldn't it be fair if the Last Whisper line could be swapped freely as well? http://i.imgur.com/ldYPzhO.png http://i.imgur.com/HAt410j.png
There are actually quite a few pairs of items for which this could make sense, and where the line should be drawn is a bit confusing if you think about it.
is the one we have now
is a natural swap out too, but an even more reasonable pair would be
which share build paths more closely than other pairs, and if hydras can be swaped with such dramatically different build paths then why not adjust some prices and stats to accomodate others like
the sheen items?
what about these two?
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i'm playing devil's advocate a bit here because i dont think that any of them should be swapable. I think building the correct item the first time is an expression of skill/game knowledge and is valuable. Being able to swap between them freely devalues that somewhat.
No, never. Why would you let someone freely interchange counter items?
Ravenous Hydra and Titanic Hydra don't counter anyone. They just add different stats. LDR and Mortal Reminder take away stats from somebody else. It is not anything close to the same thing. A better option would be and .
gives the Champ controlled by the player extra sustain and AoE damage / lifesteal.
gives the Champ controlled by the player HP, AoE of different shape, and damage scaling off of HP.
Both items simply change the way the Champ itself performs without much relation to the enemy targets. The two items both focus more on the champ that they are on.
IS a counter to enemy sustain on top of being a counter to armor stacking.
IS a counter to enemy HP stacking on top of being a counter to armor stacking.
These two items are not as dependent on the Champ they're on, but who they fight. In other words, they are counters.
Items built with a focus on the player's Champions work very differently from items built with a focus on the ENEMY's Champions.
I am of the opinion that items that are situationally built to counter the enemy's Champion +build should NEVER be easily interchangeable, especially when the items singlehandedly act as counters.
At least requires more damage and / or lifesteal to amplify its usefulness while requires HP stacking from other HP items to maximize its usefulness.
and don't require any such synergy with other items to counter the built lifesteal / stacked HP.
TL;DR Each set of items mentioned operate in entirely different ways. They should not be compared, and Mortal Reminder / Lord Dominick's should not be interchangeable.
Actually I've never thought about it but I kind of agree. That'd be cool.
I would LOVE to be able to change jungle items, even after buying its enchantment.
Can't even do 
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Especially when you realize your idiot Brand support refuses to buy a Sightstone.
hydra items can be chanced because they don't want anyone with 2 in they're build because it would make them a splitpush god or somthing and mortal reminder and dominiks could be both in you're build
Honestly being able to exhancge those items seems kinda stupid "early game build damage, than exchange into more tanky for free?" Idk, it hasn't been too impactful but the thought of it is kinda stupid
Also to be honest why are Ravenous and Titanic exchangeable in the first place .-.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
"oh no enemy swain is fed" #buy mortal reminder and shut him down completely
"oh no, now the enemy sejuani is too tanky" #change mortal reminder to lord dominik for free and ruin her face
The main difference here is the Hydras passives and actives are similar to each other, one goes based off of percentage attack while the other goes off percentage health.
But when it comes to LDR and MR, their first unique passives are completely different from each other.
LDR gives you percentage damage based off the difference in health between you and the enemy while MR only inflicts Grievous Wounds which has nothing to do with percent damage.
To put it more simply, the Hydras do the same thing as each other but just in a different way. And the LDR and MR first passives literally have nothing in common.
or RFC for Shiv.
I would rather
and 
And how about and ?
Because you can't have both Hydras. You can have both crossbows.
I agree remove the ravenous/titanic hydra exchange possibility
What annoys me is the fact you combine last whisper with either for a last item, but can't get grievous wounds + advantage over hp, making tank shredding based AD builds inherently counter armour but only counter sustain or hp optionally. You should be able to combine 
into an item without armpen
