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Mordekaiser rework discussion

Roleax·8/5/2015, 6:42:49 PM·6 votes·1,363 views

Mordekaiser I've not played Mordekaiser in quite while, mainly because i was waiting for the actual rework. Before I realized how glaring Mordekaisers weakness's were I had mained him, from about level 10-30, once i got to level 30 I realized I how his lack of movement and cc was torturous, and for the most part stopped playing him. However with the way he is being reworked seems very odd and gimmicky.

My personal opinion on the rework is that it doesn't fix any problems with Mordekaiser and is just trying to hide them by making him need a support. Don't get me wrong I'm all for going against meta, but I shouldn't be forced to do so. The dragon ghost is cool but seems really forced onto him, same with his w change, the q change is the only thing that i find that could actually benefit him, everything else just feels wrong. As an old Mordekaiser player I don't feel like these changes are in the best interest of the champion.

How does everyone else feel? What changes do you feel like riot could make to Mordekaiser to fix some of his issues? Any current Mordekaiser mains have anything to say, what about someone who has never played him?

And please people, keep this civil, and respect one another.

Edit: and for anyone who doesn't know about the changes here are the main links General: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/08/gameplay-update-juggernauts.html Numbers: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/08/84-pbe-update.html

9 Comments

Terff8/5/2015, 6:48:32 PM3 votes

I don't like it. It nerfs a lot of what he's good at, adds weird AD ratios to everything and seems just completely random and overloaded. And now if he wants to solo lane he'll have to forfeit an ability. Doesn't seem right if you ask me.

Raid Boss Morde8/8/2015, 9:33:46 AM2 votes

This is terrible, and Riot really needs to change a lot of numbers on him or just scrap this rework. What do you build on Mordekaiser now? With his new kit, he's supposed to build AP/AD/HP/MS. On live, you normally build AP/HP. How does Riot think that giving him hybrid ratios will help? Also, killing his solo laning power and forcing him into bot lane was the worst decision yet.

Other things that most people aren't mentioning:

E: Base damage was destroyed, but given an AD ratio, which he doesn't need!

E: Range was REDUCED! 700 > 650... (upcoming update is said to have that range to 675 though)

R: Range REDUCED from 850 > 650... that's actually quite a huge nerf

Movement Speed: 340 > 325... this HAS to be reverted. Mordekaiser has 0 CC and mobility, and they emphasize this even more by reducing his Movement speed to the minimum? What is this going to SOLVE?

Warhadow8/29/2015, 7:21:56 AM2 votes

I've found he can be incredible bot lane if he has an all-in support like Leona or Braum. His AP ratios have been dropped, yeah. I feel like if they would have kept them the same though then he'd be too powerful in the bot lane. I'm not an expert on him by any means but I've found some hybrid items (Triforce, Gunblade, Guinsoo's) along with tanky ad items work best. While he's not the spellcaster he used to be I think there'll be some time before people can fully utilize him again. Personally I prefer the update. Late game he can still shove just as hard and the fact that his new Q works on structures is amazing. These are my feelings on the subject.

Voidgolem8/5/2015, 6:46:16 PM1 votes

from what I gather the rework wasn't -supposed- to fix his problems. Merely put him in a position where they can buff him if needed without him going crazy bonkers top/mid.

He's probably going to need a buff, too, given that his bases seem really, really low.

Hupsis8/8/2015, 11:16:36 AM1 votes

Because he lacks mobility and cc, he was moved to bot lane where he can have a support to address those issues. If he had cc or mobility in his kit, he would have to be compensate-nerfed to not even be considered a juggernaut.

I believe he will be more useful with a support and against two enemy champions due to him being naturally better against multiple enemies.

The changes are interesting. W should probably still remain an option for a solo lane Morde and hopefully Riot allows it to be self-cast or something. Due to the dragon enslavement ability I believe he wouldn't be picked top lane in any case.

I do hope he will get a VU in the not so distant future.