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Can we have some changes to botlane?

cardomajig24·6/18/2017, 5:26:03 PM·1 votes·521 views

Every ranked game it's either the enemy botlane feeds or my botlane feeds. Considering how this isn't how most other lanes work, I feel it's an indication the lane is an unhealthy example of where the snowball effect is most prominent. In top lane if I die, I just farm, waveclear, and eventually I might start racking up assists or kills by playing around my turret or just playing smarter. Midlane, roam, roam, roam. Fuck farm just push waves and try to be useful to your team. Jungle, farm up, counterjungle as much as possible and countergank. ADC and Support? Tough shit you just die and lose. This has only been exacerbated with Riot's attention to damage items lately and I feel some changes should be reverted to when adc's were relevant but they were'nt the most meta champs in the game and carried if they got a single kill. Hell, make it a tank meta again, they're the healthiest because nobody is being instagibbed, they're gated by mana and run out if they waveclear, and you can still kite back, itemize against them, whatever you need to do. ADC's, like assasins, can be much more of a problem because they have much more damage and a whole lot less counterplay, because let's be honest, you can't dodge a right click. To answer some questions, yes i've been losing games because of my botlane feeding, am I salty? Hell no, i've been on the recieving end and I can tell there's some bullshit happening.

6 Comments

Qzply766/18/2017, 5:35:53 PM1 votes

I think it's mostly adc being a hard role or atleast positioning is. And most low elo add players struggle with it or don't have any.

AmetDeCrypt6/18/2017, 5:53:00 PM1 votes

well the counterplay imo is don't stay in their range until you're ready to do something about it. that's what burst and tank are for. but anyway I don't know if it's a problem with bot lane or with the people you meet because bot is one of the potentially tamer farm heavy lanes while they wait for an item or two to actually do anything.

RK N0va6/18/2017, 7:00:56 PM1 votes

I think that toplane snowballing is worse than botlane, simply because a fed tank is nigh unkillable; at least with a fed ADC they're still squishy. A big problem people had with the tank meta were champions who could do assassin burst damage, that were also were extremely tanky (Look at tank Fizz and tank Echo, and how much problems they caused). It's already been addressed how damage creep found its way into league and has given champions who aren't supposed to do much damage - doing considerable damage now. Of course ADC's benefit from this even more.

ADC's like Draven have the benefit of tank status because of items like Phantom Dancer and Deaths dance which just shift and mitigate damage received. I think what needs to be done is put less power in masteries, runes, and items, and put more focus on champions. When you have items in the game that give silly passives like bonus damage reduction or free shields, you give too much generalization, and we all know how people feel about generalization (Lee Sin).

Pretty soon you'll be able to play champions that can do it all: Dash, heal, shield, cc, sustained damage, and burst. It doesn't leave room for counter play, especially in a tank meta.