Please don't overnerf Lucian again...

SpongebobIsLife··5 votes·788 views

I'd rather Lucian not go back to where he was last season. Removal of the crit on his passive is unnecessary and would hit him too hard. Let's see how he does for the next patch or 2 before nerfing him again please.

Edit: There's really no point in discussing with boards, all everyone wants is the gutting of a champion, and fail to actually realize the truth about a champion. Glad Riot doesn't actually listen to boards that much regarding champion balance.

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Guy Fox Teemo7 votes

He was incredibly popular last season as well? He's been dominant for almost his entire release, only point he was weak were during jinx's era.

SpongebobIsLife1 votes

UM what? He had a 0 percent win rate in the lcs for a loooong time last season, and might have actually finished the season with that same win rate. His win rate in solo que was in the mid 40s, lower than any other adc.

Btw, you just countered yourself. Jinx era was last season.

Jorencice2 votes

See what your missing is how annoying lucian is.

What with probly the best kite in the game Amazing burst and absurd sustain.

When jinx was strong she wasn't annoying.

It's like janna. She's been the number 1 or 2 best support going on 4 seasons now.

Yet no one bitchs about janna because she isn't as annoying as let's say a thresh or soraka.

YCitizenSnipsY2 votes

The fuck are you talking about? He got nerfed 9 times in season 4 and spent the entirety of season 5 as a trash pick.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/lucian

In fact its funny you mention Jinx becasue she spent more time as an dominate ADC than Lucian did.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/jinx

Treeofwar3 votes

lucian is a adc that has a lot more burst with his abilities vs someone like ashe who needs autos to get her dps out so his passive is a bit op

Darkslayer851 votes

Hey, but at least he takes skill with animation cancelling, positioning, CD management, corr-

Shut up.

Jorencice1 votes

I'm confused... was that sarcasm or do you actually think Lucian takes skill?

Darkslayer851 votes

The first half was from the perspective of a Lucian main, then I'm telling him to shut up.

Sylverblitz2 votes

He needs to be nerfed beyond "ok" and then slight buffs up to a suitable level. No more of this bullshit "wait and see" for months. I'm sick of Riot pussying around with nerfs for their favourites so if you feel this is 'too much' then I'm confident it's not enough yet. The only time he was slightly weak was when he was given a decent nerf and then he got buffed to stupid levels again within a month. Let's not repeat that mistake, keep him down a lot longer.

SpongebobIsLife1 votes

No, that statement is completely untrue as he was trash last season bc riot kept constantly nerfing him. Also, he was never a problem until the Korean build was fine. He has always been strong this season, just like every other adc, the new build just pushed him to op.

Sylverblitz1 votes

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No, that statement is completely untrue as he was trash last season bc riot kept constantly nerfing him. Also, he was never a problem until the Korean build was fine. He has always been strong this season, just like every other adc, the new build just pushed him to op.

I think you need to go back and look through some of the games because he was used almost all through the season and was a problem long before the Korean build. The new season did not make every ADC strong because those that were stronger for more than a minute were nerfed.

Only Lucian and that other piece of trash Ezreal manage to escape nerfs over and over again somehow. This is needed and I would love for him to be unused for the rest of the season. Plenty of other champions have been hit hard and not seen play for a long time, its his turn finally.

Emerald Fang1 votes

And how would someone discovering that Black Cleaver is good on an ADC affect his/her power? The items are still there. Someone would have figured it out eventually.

Sylverblitz2 votes

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And how would someone discovering that Black Cleaver is good on an ADC affect his/her power? The items are still there. Someone would have figured it out eventually.

It's like Iceborn on Ezreal - it needs to not work for ranged champions. The whole point of Iceborn was for melee champions to be able to stick to a target, not for an ADC to kite / chase as much as he is able. Black Cleaver with the way its armour shred works should never be available or work on an ADC.

Emerald Fang1 votes

WTF they didn't even nerf him, just decreased his W range by 100 and altered his Q. (Did they change his AS scaling?) He is becoming a more Jhin-like champion, putting less focus on AS and more on damage.

Zarkkast1 votes

I love boards favoritism.

Tahm Kench is still nearly unplayable because of the board outcry which lead Riot to overnerf him when he was already balanced after the first rounds of nerfs.

Lucian can be overnerfed for all I care. He's had over 40% pick rate for far too long.

Hige1 votes

Who builds crit chance on Lucian either way? this kind of nerfs limits the outliers lucky crits with 1 crit chance rune.

If anything this could be the window to open up the possibility of his ult critting.

stealthfox941 votes

I honestly can't believe there's this many people who hate Lucian. Where where you guys last season?

Sylverblitz1 votes

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I honestly can't believe there's this many people who hate Lucian. Where where you guys last season?

Hated him then too. Any champion that is clearly dominant over all others needs to be hit hard. Since Riot will never do the opposite, buff everyone to the outlier's level, it has to be done this way but the time they take with some champions is absurd and shows clear favouritism. The fact that the LCS will not see patch 6.12 for months where he has some decent nerfs coming mean he will still be the dominant pick there.

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