THEORETICALLY...what are Lee Sin's weaknesses supposed to be?

Okay, so currently, I don't think Lee Sin has any significant weaknesses (he has an answer to every situation), but in an ideal world, here's what I think he should be weak at:

• Sustain. As a high-intensity champion, Lee Sin should have a limited amount of "strikes" while out in the field before he should be forced to back. Everything about him encourages him to dive in, kick his target's butt (sometimes literally) and make a clean exit. He also has several tools to avoid or mitigate damage (his shield, his dashes and his get-away-from-me kick), which he should be putting to full use. If he messes up and takes too much damage, that damage should stick. His current lifesteal/spellvamp steroid messes that up by allowing him to heal back up extremely quickly no matter how much pain his opponents inflict on him, and I think his sustain should be slashed in favor of, say, a better shield (which would allow him to block more damage and stay healthier when he uses it right).
• Recovery after burst. Lee starts out with twice as many abilities as anyone else, and can use them all in pretty much one go. Ideally, he should have to choose between spacing out his abilities in order to make the most of his energy restoration, or blowing everything at once and having few options afterwards, but currently the difference is not as pronounced as it should be. Lee can currently dive his opponent, blow all of his abilities, and still always have enough energy to dash out of a fight whenever he wants (one of the biggest reasons why people dislike him). Escaping a fight should be a larger investment, and one Lee can't just make regardless of how many abilities he's used already.
• Combat outside of using spells. Lee's abilities are massively powerful, and are the best and most interesting part of him. When Lee's abilities are up, you should be scared because he could make massive plays at any moment, but conversely when his spells are on cooldown, that should be your window of opportunity to make him pay. As an AD champion, Lee needs to blend autoattacks in between spellcasts, but he should only be doing so to further enable future use of his abilities, and not to deal any major part of his damage. Effectively, he should be the weakest AD champion around when just autoattacking. His AS steroid, however, goes against this, and makes him a threat in the early game even when his abilities are on cooldown. I think Lee could afford to have even stronger or more frequent spellcasts if he lost his AS steroid and became a truly weak autoattacker.

Blindness. He should play the whole game with the same kind of vision Rek'Sai has when burrowed. Congrats, Lee is now balanced.

Don't take my word on this because I don't play Lee Sin or the jungle in general, but from what I've heard, Lee Sin falls apart pretty hard late game. He's a strong champion early game and won't contribute much if the game drags on into a 50 minute game.

I'd say his weakness are team-fights as if doesn't contribute much and it's rather hard landing your "q" on the right enemy champion and making a noticeable difference for your team.

Theoretically, it's that he doesn't do any one thing particularly well in exchange for being decent at everything. Jack of all trades but master of none.

He's blind.

Duh

THEORETICALLY

His weakness is that only one team can have him in a Draft game.

THEORETICALLY, his main weakness is people missing the skill shot sonic thingy and letting you get away. It is only theoretically because you can dodge 17 of them, and with the low CD on it, still get hit by one stray one and die to his full tank still 100-0 burst you build.

He has a very fast low telegraph moderately low cooldown effectively free skillshot that can miss.

Also, the myth of a guaranteed lategame persists. Perhaps when all ten champions are level 18 with full builds, he is less damagey than the carries and less tanky than the tanks. The issue is that at every single point up until that point, he still deals absurd damage building tanky and he still never dies when building damage. This is mostly due to his INSANE mobility (which is not something that ever falls off). If you fuck up an engage with Lee Sin you can ward jump over a wall or to a minion, you can dragon kick the nearest champ and scatter them, and you have a slow and a shield to keep yourself alive while you wait for your engage to come off cooldown (won't be long) and then you have even more options because hey, it's also an escape. Oh, and you have attack speed steroids and free lifesteal/spellvamp, because why the fuck not, right? (Compare this to what happens when, say, Diana fucks up an engage.)

One single drop of awareness and Lee Sin never dies. Whether or not you kill him has nothing to do with your skill and everything to do with his. He makes every decision, and if he makes the wrong one he has a LIST of get out of jail free cards to fall back on. You can do everything right and the outcome depends on Lee Sin making MULTIPLE mistakes. That is the biggest problem (but far from the only one).

Are there bad Lee Sins? Obviously. People still don't seem to understand that not dying is relatively easy and is also the most important skill in the game. Going 1v3 for the kill and dying getting it is never wise. Having the KDA is important mentality is going to cause you to feed and lose games regardless of how mindbogglingly huge your safety net is.

As for the LC$ Big Play$ which is keeping the balance team from doing their jobs and fixing this nonsense, it'd be great if every champion had the list of options Lee Sin has. Thing is, that means the rework team now has 122 more things to do.

Remove ward jumping (yeah, fuck you too Kat), remove the lifesteal, remove the execute damage. Yup, like a fish. Anyone who thinks Lee Sin is anything other than an overpowered joke is as blind as he is, and getting him in line with other champs only LOOKS like he's being destroyed because he is so far above everyone and everything else. ~Uiru

Being outscaled by pretty much everyone.

The theory that he "falls off late" is completely false.

-Mobility is strong no matter what point in the game you're at.

-Percent missing health executes only become stronger as the game goes on, taking larger amounts of HP as the enemy's health pool increases.

-AoE knockups/single target knockbacks are ridiculously good no matter how you look at it.

The only thing that "falls off" is his shield, because it only blocks 200 damage, the free 25% lifesteal and spell vamp is however incredibly unnecessary, and more than makes up for the weak shield.

But here's the thing: The shield should be weak. It's a dash, and a shield.

He gets free lifesteal and spell vamp, he can reveal invisible targets, and he can dash to wards. His kit has too many extras. You could strip his kit of half the spell vamp and lifesteal, remove his invisibility detection, and remove his ability to ward-hop and he would still be a good champion that people would play.

His weakpoints is

His damage drops off hard late game unless built full AD. If he builds full AD he still does assassin like burst, but is uber squishy.

He's supposed to be a Jack-of-all-Trades, master of none.

And his damage is supposed to fall off late game to the point where he must rely on his utility.

I would say those are his theoretical weaknesses. Neither of which are true in practical application.

Lee Sin builds a sight stone in the jungle and still outduels the enemy jungler. Sure, he may fall off late game, but he's spent thirty minutes capturing objectives, keeping his lanes safe and invading the enemy jungle. His only weakness is you can't be assured of playing him every draft game; and his kit is so stacked that Lee Sindrome is a real thing.

Lategame is supposed to be his weakness.

Tbh I've only ever been in a handful of games where a snowballing lee sin really "fell off" towards the endgame. Usually he just ends up snowballing extremely hard (his ridiculously good AD ratios don't help that at all), and just becomes this hyper mobile, uncatchable nuisance that ends up with some of the best initiations in the game.

His "weakness" is supposed to be that his lategame is awful. Late game his kit is only useful to reposition himself for a good ult. His damage really falls off, and he's not even really a good tank.

But yes, he DOES kind of do-it-all, and he was designed muchlike the old champs were. He is probably in need of an update.

"He's blind." -rito

People say that he falls off lategame . Those people are usually people that build Hydra, Trinity forze, and zero armor pen.

The you get death kicked by a Lee Sin full tank with Last whisper :D